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Ocampo loses case against suspect
gmg
#11 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 11:49:24 AM
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Na ndio twasema after confirmation of charges there should be an inquiry to investigate the OTP.Even if this cases goes to the trial stage which requires evidence beyond reasonable doubt i dont think those witnesses will be capable of giving evidence beyond reasonable doubt leave alone sufficient evidence.
poundfoolish
#12 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 11:56:54 AM
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TAZ wrote:
I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team.


me thinks its still Raila's fault that guys missed the whole point of the thread
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#13 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:07:17 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
TAZ wrote:
I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team.


me thinks its still Raila's fault that guys missed the whole point of the thread

I had no internet on Friday last week, surely must be Raila.
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KulaRaha
#14 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:11:46 PM
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Elder wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
TAZ wrote:
I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team.


me thinks its still Raila's fault that guys missed the whole point of the thread

I had no internet on Friday last week, surely must be Raila.


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#15 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:12:31 PM
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Niko na hangover kali.....must be Raila!!!
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Imp unity
#16 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:14:33 PM
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Burning Spear wrote:
The violence started as a result of inciting the ignorant folks, and we know very well that those who incited are not in Hague.They regard themselves as reformers while they carry innocent blood with them everywhere.

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Cursed are the pretenders. You know you have blood on your hands, you implicate someone else who is now at the ICC. It is discovered that the witnesses you paid to implicate others are career witnesses. When the truth starts emerging, you threaten to put a grenade in your ass. Kenya has more clever citizens than some idiot wants us to believe.

Do you remember that Jaluo who claimed his family of eight was burnt by Mungiki or kikuyu raiders in Naivasha? It emerges that the fellow did not have a wife, that the white patches he has on his body were not caused by fire but is a skin condition called Vitirigo. He was paid 150,000 to give his story to the media and a girl provided for him to marry and live in Kisumu.

So, this issue of rubbishing allegations on Raila should not be dismissed lightly. He should be investigated and castigated for taking kenyans for fools.
Imp unity
#17 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:21:00 PM
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Mr Bernard Orinda Ndege, 54
Imp unity
#18 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:24:14 PM
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Abiud Ochieng'

14 July 2011

Nairobi — A man who lost his family of nine during the post-election violence in Naivasha has accused former MP Jayne Kihara of playing a role in the chaos.

Mr Bernard Orinda Ndege, 54, said Ms Kihara told a rally near the Naivasha District Hospital that some communities had to leave the area for supporting her rival, Mr John Mututho.

Ms Kihara was defending her seat on a Narc Kenya ticket while Mr Mututho contested on a Kanu ticket.

"She called a gathering near the hospital and said that since people from the Luo and Luhya communities had combined forces to vote for Mr Mututho, they must leave this place," Mr Ndege said.

He was testifying before the Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission in Kisumu on Thursday.

Before the violence erupted, he added, all machetes in a local supermarket were bought. He is convinced that these weapons were used in the attacks on Ms Kihara's perceived enemies.

Mr Ndege also accused the police of betrayal. The officers, he said, urged them to go back to their houses and promised to protect them, but they were nowhere when the attacks started in broad daylight.

"In my house, we were shouting for help and our attackers, whom we believe were the Mungikis, were also shouting from outside. They poured petrol on the house and lit fire. I lost all my family members in the inferno," Mr Ndege said.

Nineteen people, including a pregnant woman, were killed in the house.

Most of the victims, Mr Ndege said, were women who had sought refuge in the house after fleeing from panga-wielding youths.

He said the killings were politically instigated, adding that there was evidence that the Mungiki youths earned Sh7,000 every evening for their work in the area.

The killers were transported from Nairobi and other towns, he said.



http://allafrica.com/stories/201107150057.html
Imp unity
#19 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:32:06 PM
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So, this guy says he was burnt in his house and all his family died in the process. Note this.

Mr Ndege appealed for urgent medical treatment, support for his children's education and compensation from the government for the loss of his family members.

He also called for the prosecution of all perpetrators of the violence, saying that if they are not tried, worse violence could erupt in the next election.

Mr Ndege said that there had been no violence in Naivasha since 1978 when he settled in the town as a fisherman.

He also said that the number of those reported to have been killed was more than what has been reported.

"There were many others who were killed and their bodies thrown into pit latrines," Mr Ndege said.


If he knows others were thrown into pit latrines, why didn't he take Ocampo to the latrines for retrival of the skeletons?
Inuendo
#20 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 12:54:08 PM
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Imp unity wrote:
So, this guy says he was burnt in his house and all his family died in the process. Note this.

Mr Ndege appealed for urgent medical treatment, support for his children's education and compensation from the government for the loss of his family members.

He also called for the prosecution of all perpetrators of the violence, saying that if they are not tried, worse violence could erupt in the next election.

Mr Ndege said that there had been no violence in Naivasha since 1978 when he settled in the town as a fisherman.

He also said that the number of those reported to have been killed was more than what has been reported.

"There were many others who were killed and their bodies thrown into pit latrines," Mr Ndege said.


If he knows others were thrown into pit latrines, why didn't he take Ocampo to the latrines for retrival of the skeletons?


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