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If Muthaura's defense is anything to go by, Ocampo has no case against him. His lawyers Faal and Ogeto made a good showing on Saturday. Ocampo is just hot air. He is worse than Lumumba Otieno. He has now guaranteed no justice for victims of PEV. This is the story I got from an insider and confirmed separately. Initially, Amolo had told Ocampo that if he were to summon Uhuru and Rutu, they would not go to the hague because they are too proud. That would have ensured an arrest warrant was issued and as you know, have such a warrant over your head would remit your movements around the world seeking political support and finance especially from western countries. Ocampo followed raila advice but uhuru and ruto were smarter. Read some of the facts in Muthaura's defence. A typically combative Mr Khan dismissed the prosecution’s evidence as a tissue of lies. “The flotsam and jetsam of the prosecutor’s errors should not be allowed to flow into the river of justice to pollute it,” he said. The central contention in Mr Khan’s case was that the planning meetings the Prosecution team has cited did not take place. He drew on records put forward by the G Company of the General Service Unit which keeps a record of all visitors at State House to discount the prosecution’s claims. He also played video and tabled minutes of meetings which Mr Muthaura attended to account for his movements on the day the meeting is said to have taken place. His phone records for January 3, 2008, when he is said to have made a call in support of the Mungiki attacks in Naivasha and Nakuru were submitted to the court to combat the allegations. He said the Prosecution claimed one meeting took place on Saturday, January 27, 2008, a day which he said was a Sunday in that year. He also cited a Prosecution witness who spoke of a meeting attended by CID director Joseph Kamau during the election period. Mr Khan tabled a letter indicating that Mr Kamau had retired a year earlier. At a press conference on Wednesday in The Hague, the NGOs urged the office of the prosecutor to reopen investigations into the sexual crimes committed in Kibera and Kisumu after the 2007 elections, saying victims had been let down by Mr Ocampo’s investigative team. “Our review of the reasons judges keep rejecting gender-based violence charges are the generous use of secondary material and public reports by the office of the prosecutor,” said Ms Brigid Inder, the executive director of Hague-based Women’s Initiative for Gender Justice. http://www.nation.co.ke/...2/-/63redj/-/index.html
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Where investigators do a shoddy job that is sure to cost them a case. Indeed, the surest way to sabotage a prosecution is to carry out shoddy investigations. Conversely, lawyers build their reputations from the way they gather evidence and interrogate and corroborate, and sieve and sift it. Again, how lawyers assemble and interrogate witnesses builds or destroys their reputations as courtroom performers. Notice that lawyers for Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta, postmaster-general Hussein Ali and Public Service head Francis Muthaura repeatedly taunted Mr Moreno-Ocampo, and boasted that they had, unlike the prosecution, carried out investigations. What investigations did Mr Moreno-Ocampo carry out? He did not interview any of these three suspects and yet he knew pretty well that the Rome Statute demands he gathers and inquires into both incriminating and ameliorating evidence. The prosecutor did not produce phone records to back up claims that the suspects made telephone calls, yet these are readily available from the mobile phone providers. I am dumbstruck All along I expected, nay, knew, Mr Moreno-Ocampo had these records! Alas, I am dumbstruck! The prosecution has alleged the military ferried fighters to theatres of combat but produced no records to back up this. http://www.nation.co.ke/...08/-/6lfwuu/-/index.html
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In government and military no vehicle leaves its parking lot, fuels and exits without the written say-so, complete with itinerary, from the bosses. It is why I cannot believe Mr Moreno-Ocampo has not made these records available and, worse, appears not to have them. But remember he confidently dragged that most secretive of establishments into the murder of those it is supposed to protect. Second, Mr Moreno-Ocampo made good use of the report of the Justice Philip Waki-led inquiry into the post-election violence. In this report, Justice Waki, at every turn, recommended further investigations, but, it appears, Mr Moreno-Ocampo’s team had no stomach for such work. And we were told the prosecution carried out investigations in Kenya. I am yet to see and hear their evidence. I see neither smoking gun nor bombshell. Mr Moreno-Ocampo does not have the sextet over a barrel; he appears to be scrapping the barrel for evidence. On Wednesday, as lawyer Steven Kay QC (Queen’s Counsel) graphically defended Mr Kenyatta as a preacher of peace and demonised Prime Minister Raila Odinga as a war monger, he sarcastically mocked the failure of the prosecution to investigate its own case. How about Mr Moreno-Ocampo’s witnesses? When lenient the defence has derided them as anonymous. Otherwise, they have been depicted as hunting with the hounds and running with the hare, drunkards, nomadic fortune seekers and — wait for it — career witnesses. 
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Raila not agent of change after all
Over the years, the PM has made it a career of reminding Kenyans of the inviolability of freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of expression, freedom of conscience, freedom to hold different opinions, a fair and functioning judicial system and a functioning democratic system. Indeed, he suffered greatly for championing these ideals. These are the reasons why I have supported him over the years. Early this morning (August 12, 2011), I received information that on July 6th, 2011 when my staff went to the Prime Minister’s Building to collect my leave allowance, a junior employee at the Human Resource department at the OPM was boasting that I would not be returning to work because I had been fired. My staff did not have the courage to tell me of the rumours in case they turned out to be just rumours. I am also aware that I was not allocated office space at the PM’s Building last year due to mortal fear by the “power men” from Nyanza that I was becoming too powerful and influential. These “power men” believed that my “power” and influence” were emanating from the proximity I had to the PM. They thought that discarding me at the NHIF Building in Upper Hill, would dilute the perceived power. However, when they noticed that I continued to discharge my functions with complete commitment, diligence and distinction, the power men panicked and resorted to bestiality. But because they are both cowardly and dishonest, they could not face me with their fabrications. They waited until I was on leave to execute their nefarious plans. So, quite clearly, the PM and those around him simply wanted to “sacrifice” me for parochial, mischievous and malicious political reasons. The PM has acted both dishonourably and disgracefully. But in doing so, they acted inhumanely, did not follow due process, and grossly breached my legal and constitutional rights. Nobody can justify these acts. I am not a dog that can be brutalized without consequences. I shall protect and uphold the rule of law and the Constitution. Those who fear democracy, the rule of law and refuse to uphold the Constitution have no business pretending to represent the ideals of the new dawn. When it comes to issues of justice, truth, respect for human rights, the rule of law and constitutionalism, I have no other option but to be uncompromising. I know that the people of Kenya and God are on my side on this. The inhumane and bestial way I have been shunted has touched many people. Everybody knows the positive contributions I have made and will continue to make for the well-being of this country. To the people of Kenya, I want to say: I shall never bend and serve at the whims of parochial selfish interests. (Mr Miguna used to be the PM advisor on coalition affairs. He is a Barrister & Solicitor) http://www.capitalfm.co....-my-suspension-in-court/ "One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.
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Raila is to blame for everything!!! Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Robinhood wrote:Raila is to blame for everything!!! seconded and thirded
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manpoa wrote:Robinhood wrote:Raila is to blame for everything!!! seconded and thirded ITS TRUE! Today the shilling is at 100.50 and Raila is to blame! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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KulaRaha wrote:manpoa wrote:Robinhood wrote:Raila is to blame for everything!!! seconded and thirded ITS TRUE! Today the shilling is at 100.50 and Raila is to blame! fourtheded 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team.
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The violence started as a result of inciting the ignorant folks, and we know very well that those who incited are not in Hague.They regard themselves as reformers while they carry innocent blood with them everywhere. ps Dont user me ! "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Na ndio twasema after confirmation of charges there should be an inquiry to investigate the OTP.Even if this cases goes to the trial stage which requires evidence beyond reasonable doubt i dont think those witnesses will be capable of giving evidence beyond reasonable doubt leave alone sufficient evidence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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TAZ wrote:I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team. me thinks its still Raila's fault that guys missed the whole point of the thread
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poundfoolish wrote:TAZ wrote:I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team. me thinks its still Raila's fault that guys missed the whole point of the thread I had no internet on Friday last week, surely must be Raila. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Elder wrote:poundfoolish wrote:TAZ wrote:I really don't think this thread is about Raila so i don't understand why you're defending him. From what i've been able to get its all about Ocampo's case at the ICC. MK has also been mentioned severally by the defense team. me thinks its still Raila's fault that guys missed the whole point of the thread I had no internet on Friday last week, surely must be Raila. The traffic on museum hill today was madness!! Raila's fault! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Niko na hangover kali.....must be Raila!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Burning Spear wrote:The violence started as a result of inciting the ignorant folks, and we know very well that those who incited are not in Hague.They regard themselves as reformers while they carry innocent blood with them everywhere.
ps Dont user me ! Cursed are the pretenders. You know you have blood on your hands, you implicate someone else who is now at the ICC. It is discovered that the witnesses you paid to implicate others are career witnesses. When the truth starts emerging, you threaten to put a grenade in your ass. Kenya has more clever citizens than some idiot wants us to believe. Do you remember that Jaluo who claimed his family of eight was burnt by Mungiki or kikuyu raiders in Naivasha? It emerges that the fellow did not have a wife, that the white patches he has on his body were not caused by fire but is a skin condition called Vitirigo. He was paid 150,000 to give his story to the media and a girl provided for him to marry and live in Kisumu. So, this issue of rubbishing allegations on Raila should not be dismissed lightly. He should be investigated and castigated for taking kenyans for fools.
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 Mr Bernard Orinda Ndege, 54
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Abiud Ochieng' 14 July 2011 Nairobi — A man who lost his family of nine during the post-election violence in Naivasha has accused former MP Jayne Kihara of playing a role in the chaos. Mr Bernard Orinda Ndege, 54, said Ms Kihara told a rally near the Naivasha District Hospital that some communities had to leave the area for supporting her rival, Mr John Mututho. Ms Kihara was defending her seat on a Narc Kenya ticket while Mr Mututho contested on a Kanu ticket. "She called a gathering near the hospital and said that since people from the Luo and Luhya communities had combined forces to vote for Mr Mututho, they must leave this place," Mr Ndege said. He was testifying before the Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission in Kisumu on Thursday. Before the violence erupted, he added, all machetes in a local supermarket were bought. He is convinced that these weapons were used in the attacks on Ms Kihara's perceived enemies. Mr Ndege also accused the police of betrayal. The officers, he said, urged them to go back to their houses and promised to protect them, but they were nowhere when the attacks started in broad daylight. "In my house, we were shouting for help and our attackers, whom we believe were the Mungikis, were also shouting from outside. They poured petrol on the house and lit fire. I lost all my family members in the inferno," Mr Ndege said.Nineteen people, including a pregnant woman, were killed in the house. Most of the victims, Mr Ndege said, were women who had sought refuge in the house after fleeing from panga-wielding youths. He said the killings were politically instigated, adding that there was evidence that the Mungiki youths earned Sh7,000 every evening for their work in the area. The killers were transported from Nairobi and other towns, he said. http://allafrica.com/stories/201107150057.html
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/10/2011 Posts: 60
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So, this guy says he was burnt in his house and all his family died in the process. Note this.
Mr Ndege appealed for urgent medical treatment, support for his children's education and compensation from the government for the loss of his family members.
He also called for the prosecution of all perpetrators of the violence, saying that if they are not tried, worse violence could erupt in the next election.
Mr Ndege said that there had been no violence in Naivasha since 1978 when he settled in the town as a fisherman.
He also said that the number of those reported to have been killed was more than what has been reported.
"There were many others who were killed and their bodies thrown into pit latrines," Mr Ndege said.
If he knows others were thrown into pit latrines, why didn't he take Ocampo to the latrines for retrival of the skeletons?
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Imp unity wrote:So, this guy says he was burnt in his house and all his family died in the process. Note this.
Mr Ndege appealed for urgent medical treatment, support for his children's education and compensation from the government for the loss of his family members.
He also called for the prosecution of all perpetrators of the violence, saying that if they are not tried, worse violence could erupt in the next election.
Mr Ndege said that there had been no violence in Naivasha since 1978 when he settled in the town as a fisherman.
He also said that the number of those reported to have been killed was more than what has been reported.
"There were many others who were killed and their bodies thrown into pit latrines," Mr Ndege said.
If he knows others were thrown into pit latrines, why didn't he take Ocampo to the latrines for retrival of the skeletons? Common sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world. Everyone thinks he has enough.
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