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incognito
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:38:29 AM
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I need some legal advice...Not entirely pro bono. Will be willing to show a little appreciation. :)
I am buying some land and the seller has prepared a sales agreement. It looks fairly simple, however i would feel a little more settled if i got wazuans input on the following excerpt of the agreement:


__________Excerpt of Agreement_________________

The Vendor is the registered proprietor of an estate in fee simple of all that piece or parcel of land known as Plot Number MMMM TITLE NUMBER xxxxxx comprising by measurement approximately xxxx ACRES, (herein after referred to as the Mother Plot) The Vendor has agreed to subdivide the mother plot and sell and the Purchaser has agreed to purchase designated subdivision Plot Number XXX (hereinafter referred to as “the property”) as appearing on the subdivision map.



NOW IT IS HEREBY AGREED as follows:-

1. THAT the Vendor shall sell to and the Purchaser shall purchase the Property.

2. The purchase price is XXXX only.

3. The purchase price shall be paid to the vendor in full upon execution of this sale agreement.

4. The purchase price shall be paid by RTGS into the vendor’s account of choice.

5. The sale is subject to the Law Society Conditions of Sale (1989 Edition) in so far as they are not inconsistent with the conditions contained in this Agreement.

6. The Property is sold with vacant possession.

7. The Property is sold subject to the easements conditions restrictions and other matters subject to which the Vendor holds the freehold interest but otherwise free from all encumbrances.

8. The purchaser shall have possession of the property upon execution of this agreement and subsequent payment of the purchase price.

9. The vendor shall complete the subdivision of the mother plot and registration formalities of the property into the purchaser’s name within two (2) months utmost or earlier from the date the purchaser executes this agreement and pays the purchase price.

10. The vendor shall cater for the costs and expenses of the subdivision and the registration of the property in the purchaser’s name and also for the legal fees for preparing this agreement.

11. Upon completion of the registration formalities by the vendor, the vendor shall deliver to the purchaser:-

(i) The original title to the property in the purchaser’s name;
(ii) a valid Rates Clearance Certificate from the relevant Local authority/or land control board’s consent whichever is applicable to the land;
(iii) Any other document(s) required by the Purchasers to enable the Sale Property to be properly registered in the Purchasers’ names.

12. Time shall be deemed to be of the essence for purposes of this agreement.

13. The Vendor has pointed out to the purchaser the beacons of the property and undertakes to replace any beacons that are missing or misplaced. The Purchaser has inspected the property for this purpose and has done an official search copy annexed to this agreement.

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In brief, in my negotiations with the seller, It was agreed that he would process my title registration and pay all legal and registration fees if i paid x ksh. Does the above agreement favour me?
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Mainat
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:58:39 AM
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It seems to me you are paying for the purchase agreement and not the title deed...
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kinoru
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:00:38 AM
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its called multiple sales in other words
incognito
#4 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:03:51 AM
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Mainat wrote:
It seems to me you are paying for the purchase agreement and not the title deed...


Mainat please expound. Pray
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incognito
#5 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:06:23 AM
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kinoru wrote:
its called multiple sales in other words


Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean?
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kinoru
#6 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:14:48 AM
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The Property is sold with vacant possession.

The purchaser shall have possession of the property upon execution of this agreement and subsequent payment of the purchase price.

Time shall be deemed to be of the essence for purposes of this agreement.
kinoru
#7 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:15:53 AM
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bkismat
#8 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:31:27 AM
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kinoru wrote:
The Property is sold with vacant possession.

The purchaser shall have possession of the property upon execution of this agreement and subsequent payment of the purchase price.

Time shall be deemed to be of the essence for purposes of this agreement.


In layman's English please.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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Ngalaka
#9 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:37:15 AM
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Assumung that you are at home with all other aspects of the deal, the agreement per se doesnt seem much of an issue.

Nonetheless, it is rare for land sellers to offer to pay stamp duty costs to register a property in buyers favour. Find that curious.

Clause 11 (ii) and (iii) could be more clear, relevant and specific to your situation.
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incognito
#10 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:11:37 AM
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bkismat wrote:
kinoru wrote:
The Property is sold with vacant possession.

The purchaser shall have possession of the property upon execution of this agreement and subsequent payment of the purchase price.

Time shall be deemed to be of the essence for purposes of this agreement.


In layman's English please.


Please break it down @ Kinoru
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incognito
#11 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:16:21 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Assumung that you are at home with all other aspects of the deal, the agreement per se doesnt seem much of an issue.

Nonetheless, it is rare for land sellers to offer to pay stamp duty costs to register a property in buyers favour. Find that curious.

Clause 11 (ii) and (iii) could be more clear, relevant and specific to your situation.



@ Ngalaka, what other documents/statement do you think are necessary to make clause (ii) and (iii) more specific?

Why do you find the bit about stamp duty payment unsettling?
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kiriita
#12 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:33:15 AM
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@incognito,
Why not just retain a lawyer?
incognito
#13 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:42:16 AM
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kiriita wrote:
@incognito,
Why not just retain a lawyer?


I have already sent the agreement to a learned friend to comment on. The reason i posted is to get other opinions and learn. I will be doing this again (Hopefully soon) and i am hoping to be more knowledgeable then. :)
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incognito
#14 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:18:38 PM
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From all the above posts i gather that i need to make clause 11 more specific. Any more thoughts?
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incognito
#15 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:21:52 PM
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incognito wrote:
From all the above posts i gather that i need to make clause 11 more specific. Any more thoughts?


Think Think Brick wall
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vinii
#16 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 4:15:17 PM
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has the seller consulted the spouse? Remember fourways?
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anika66
#17 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:10:27 PM
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incognito wrote:
kiriita wrote:
@incognito,
Why not just retain a lawyer?


I have already sent the agreement to a learned friend to comment on. The reason i posted is to get other opinions and learn. I will be doing this again (Hopefully soon) and i am hoping to be more knowledgeable then. :)



Just hire a lawyer and stop getting free legal advice through the backdoor. We parents pay so much money to send our kids to study law. Hire a lawyer please. Give to caeser what belongs to caesar................
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incognito
#18 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 8:44:39 AM
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anika66 wrote:
incognito wrote:
kiriita wrote:
@incognito,
Why not just retain a lawyer?


I have already sent the agreement to a learned friend to comment on. The reason i posted is to get other opinions and learn. I will be doing this again (Hopefully soon) and i am hoping to be more knowledgeable then. :)



Just hire a lawyer and stop getting free legal advice through the backdoor. We parents pay so much money to send our kids to study law. Hire a lawyer please. Give to caeser what belongs to caesar................



@ Anika. Shame on you Shame on you Am not seeking free advice. Its not pro bono.All i did is post here for discussion...same as you asking questions on investment. Why not just hire a finance advisor? Simply because your finance advisor will provide you with ONE opinion, and 3 or 4 heads are better than one.


As i said i do have a lawyer. Below is his comments:
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Ask the sellers advocate to make the following improvements:

1. Clause 8 to be amended to read, "The purchaser shall have exclusive and quiet possession..."

2. The advocate to incorporate an additional Clause 14 and 15 which should be worded as follows:-

14. "The Vendor hereby covenants that he holds a clean title over the Mother Plot and that both the Mother Plot and the property are not situate on either a road reserve, a way leave or public utility or any other encumbrance on the title whose effect would be such as to defeat the Purchaser's exclusive entitlement to quiet possession upon title passing to the Purchaser in the manner contemplated in this agreement"

15. "Should this transaction fail by reason of any default on the part of the Vendor after receipt of the full purchase price as contemplated by Clause 3 of this agreement,then the Vendor shall refund the Purchase Price in full together with interest at the prevailing commercial rates until payment in full."


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The above Clauses are intended to create commitment on the part of the seller since he has asked you to pay the entire purchase price upfront.If they are selling something genuine then they should not have a problem incorporating these clauses,especially No. 14 above.


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