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QW25081985
#21 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:18:52 AM
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kizee1 wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
CURRENTLY PRIVATE FOREX TRADING IS ILLEGAL IN KENYA .BUT WITH THE FUTURES MARKET COMING I DNT THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE !!!!!!!!!!!!


what is private forex trading?


opening an account with a fx broker like fxcm ,instaforex ( http://www.instaforex.com ) etc and trading spot forex..like euro,swissie, yen etc ..

But trading commodities like Gold oil, silver ISNT illegal . thats my understanding
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:23:24 AM
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QW25081985 wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
CURRENTLY PRIVATE FOREX TRADING IS ILLEGAL IN KENYA .BUT WITH THE FUTURES MARKET COMING I DNT THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE !!!!!!!!!!!!


what is private forex trading?


opening an account with a fx broker like fxcm ,instaforex ( http://www.instaforex.com ) etc and trading spot forex..like euro,swissie, yen etc ..

But trading commodities like Gold oil, silver ISNT illegal . thats my understanding



can you show us the relevant legal section that says that
QW25081985
#23 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:31:36 AM
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kizee1 wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
CURRENTLY PRIVATE FOREX TRADING IS ILLEGAL IN KENYA .BUT WITH THE FUTURES MARKET COMING I DNT THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE !!!!!!!!!!!!


what is private forex trading?


opening an account with a fx broker like fxcm ,instaforex ( http://www.instaforex.com ) etc and trading spot forex..like euro,swissie, yen etc ..

But trading commodities like Gold oil, silver ISNT illegal . thats my understanding



can you show us the relevant legal section that says that



call CBK ( www.centralbank.go.ke )and they'll tell you that !!!!!!...Fine is 500k bytheway
hisah
#24 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:41:18 AM
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@QW - I don't see where they say it is illegal... Kwani KE has become a China overnight...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
jamhurifx
#25 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:37:31 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
CURRENTLY PRIVATE FOREX TRADING IS ILLEGAL IN KENYA .BUT WITH THE FUTURES MARKET COMING I DNT THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE !!!!!!!!!!!!


what is private forex trading?


What do you mean private forex trading is illegal in Kenya??? I have asked around and like i said before in cap 149-33 of the CBK Act states that taking money from the public and investing in forex is illegal, you need a license from the central bank.There is no mention of trading privately or trading peoples account.Again,there are so many institutions that trade and teach forex and are all in the public domain such as Genius fx.

I gave an article reference in my first posts but you are not giving any references.You are merely stating what you think.Give us hard facts because we want to know.
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jamhurifx
#26 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:00:51 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv4NcV3XByE Have a look at the following link of a young Kenyan trading in Forex and Commodities and making a killing.
jamhurifx.blogspot.com
QW25081985
#27 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:09:20 AM
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Or maybe you will also not accept this article

http://www.theeastafrica.../-/py9bewz/-/index.html
hisah
#28 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:36:32 AM
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QW25081985 wrote:
Or maybe you will also not accept this article

http://www.theeastafrica.../-/py9bewz/-/index.html

Very interesting. So one needs a license. But whose work is it to regulate? If the regulator cant even steady the KES fx volatility & inflation, how can they track small fx trading by Wanjiku. This one they have no mechanism of enforcing.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
tonicasert
#29 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:00:51 AM
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QW25081985 wrote:
Or maybe you will also not accept this article

http://www.theeastafrica.../-/py9bewz/-/index.html


I think that was a poorly written article. What is illegal is trading people's funds, of which you need Central Bank's approval. Secondly, speculating the KES is also not allowed, though there's a fine line on this one. If my memory serves me right, some exchange house was closed in the 90's by CBK for speculative txns, which also included KES. What one does with personal money in FX is similar to stocks, and as long as you are not manipulating the local currency, IMO its not illegal.
jamhurifx
#30 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 10:49:30 PM
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tonicasert wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
Or maybe you will also not accept this article

http://www.theeastafrica.../-/py9bewz/-/index.html


I think that was a poorly written article. What is illegal is trading people's funds, of which you need Central Bank's approval. Secondly, speculating the KES is also not allowed, though there's a fine line on this one. If my memory serves me right, some exchange house was closed in the 90's by CBK for speculative txns, which also included KES. What one does with personal money in FX is similar to stocks, and as long as you are not manipulating the local currency, IMO its not illegal.


I totally agree with you,this article was poorly written. speculating against the Kenyan currency and or trading peoples funds in forex is what is illegal.The central bank has no involvement with you trading the EUR/USD. It does not affect them in anyway what so ever and i would find it silly for a government that has been unable to control its currency to start bothering about other currencies.
What about the futures market being set up;isn't it speculative? Wouldn't it be the same with currency futures....

jamhurifx.blogspot.com
jamhurifx
#31 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2011 6:26:26 PM
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Gold is said to be tanking because hedge funds are taking profits from Gold to offset some of the pressure from other poorly performing investments especially the equities.This goes to show the amount of money invested in hedge funds and the effect they can have on the market.
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