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PEV BITTERNESS
YesuWangu
#11 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:03:43 AM
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Sober wrote:
murenj wrote:
After listening tto the live procceedings, the anger and bitterness is comming back.........someone help me..............

those who wittnesses the PEV lli e even dont want to be reminded. It is those to who things were narrated that find pleasure in re-visiting the subject.


We all have different capacities and we respond differently to both good and bad things.

However, it is important for the bad to be known alongside the good so that proper choices and decisions can be made after the fact.

We should learn from the cover up of the Waggalla massacre and from the openness of the Jewish holocaust.

When the bitter truth comes out, not blacked out, and hearts get convicted of the evils past, then only then can behavior change for the better.
Sober
#12 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:15:00 AM
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YesuWangu wrote:
Sober wrote:
murenj wrote:
After listening tto the live procceedings, the anger and bitterness is comming back.........someone help me..............

those who wittnesses the PEV lli e even dont want to be reminded. It is those to who things were narrated that find pleasure in re-visiting the subject.


We all have different capacities and we respond differently to both good and bad things.

However, it is important for the bad to be known alongside the good so that proper choices and decisions can be made after the fact.

We should learn from the cover up of the Waggalla massacre and from the openness of the Jewish holocaust.

When the bitter truth comes out, not blacked out, and hearts get convicted of the evils past, then only then can behavior change for the better.



AGREED.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
YesuWangu
#13 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:35:07 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Im imagining a scenario where the Ruto, Sang, Kosgey are released while Uhuru Muthaura and Ali are jailed. Possible but would make the law appear to favor some. That would be the height of bitterness


Come on! Please!

You still care about them? You will reach your height of bitterness because that? Then what will you do? Dislike your neighbor because of that?

Take it upon yourself to enlighten yourself and those who will be bitter because of that: they will not reciprocate if the the reverse happened.
Kihangeri
#14 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:10:43 AM
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One stance I may never change, revenge is justified if it will stop future assaults. Punishing a wrong doer by jailing is not equal to revenging for the victim. Jailing does not correct the behaviour of a criminal, it hardens him. Revenge brings a foreclosure to the assault.
By inference, the man is all that Mr Phantom is not: an untrustworthy radical, divisive, too many enemies, a dictator, and a persistent liar...
Gaitho dialogues.


IDP
#15 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:33:54 AM
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It took a whole month of kiling ,mass displacement and rape for the revenge attacks to begin. That should tell you that kyuks were not into this PEV thing. But the Kiambaa incident tipped the balance and put each kyuk into a revenge(read war) mode. Believe you me they r still smarting,but healing. I dont think the revenge was planned but naturally spontaneous
simonkabz
#16 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:35:25 AM
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Kihangeri wrote:
One stance I may never change, revenge is justified if it will stop future assaults. Punishing a wrong doer by jailing is not equal to revenging for the victim. Jailing does not correct the behaviour of a criminal, it hardens him. Revenge brings a foreclosure to the assault.

Bitter truth. Retributive justice works finest for human beings. After squaring it out on the battlefield, mutual respect prevails. Tit for tat. A tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye. The Hammurabi Law. Both are losers. Now now, who will make RAO n Nyong'o pay, so that I can also feel good? Anyone?? ICC hainipatii justice...
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#17 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:39:17 AM
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smano wrote:
Something has to give...can you imagine going through all these proceedings and then nothing happening at the end??? Justice must be seen to be done.

Ruto and Uhuru should never be allowed to vie for presidency in this country ever!

Ditto! Would you pliz edit n add RAO to that list....
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Lolest!
#18 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:42:46 AM
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@YW/wiper. Inakaa hunielewi. Soma tena. Just imagining how those who were sacrificed by ODM would feel
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McReggae
#19 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:47:49 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
smano wrote:
Something has to give...can you imagine going through all these proceedings and then nothing happening at the end??? Justice must be seen to be done.

Ruto and Uhuru should never be allowed to vie for presidency in this country ever!

Ditto! Would you pliz edit n add RAO to that list....


......thimioni, there lies your problem....si Ogambo uko na shida na yeye, lol!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Lolest!
#20 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 10:04:35 AM
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@simo, @kihangeri the battlefield should be avoided at all costs. Those killed in revenge attacks were as innocent as the victims in kiambaa. This should never happen again.
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