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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/14/2009 Posts: 2,057
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......Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ! This lawyer can argue..... He deserves every penny as legal fees If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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The guy's very good. So good, waah! Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/14/2009 Posts: 2,057
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.....seems okampo's evidence will be shredded.... If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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And the way he is intimidating the Ogambo team. Huyu lawyer ni jaruo! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Can argue or can act, come on wazuans, I believe you are cleverer than this??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:Can argue or can act, come on wazuans, I believe you are cleverer than this??? All this is relative depending on your political inclination. When does UK become a witness? that should be interesting especially with the new evidence
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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nostoppingthis wrote:McReggae wrote:Can argue or can act, come on wazuans, I believe you are cleverer than this??? All this is relative depending on your political inclination. When does UK become a witness? that should be interesting especially with the new evidence I think I can take this lawyer. I could compare him to the nickclown who was here some time back. They are both great orators and their strength lies in mesmerizing the other side, diverting their focus so that they make mistakes. If McReggae can notice it in so many words same as I, you can bet other people also noticed it e.g. the prosecutors. That some are already mesmerized and are almost lying prostate is the unsettling bit. Anyway, remember what they harped on? 'My client was not interviewed' was all I got. Is it obligatory for the suspect to be interviewed?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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The things I heard Muthaura say:- Mimi sio suspect ninauza nyama na mutura pare ngara, harambee house na statehouse..sasa nilikutiriwa nikiuza mitura kama ya mbao au ya kumi Sasa kuona siwezi goja Ocampo,nikatoka mbio, sasa akakuja na kitu inaitwa bonoko summons akaniwekerea Mimi sina watu wetu mama ni chokora, baba ni chokora na nimezaliwa pale kwa chochoro..sasa inabidi hata mimi nijizuiye kidogo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBFnFcQg48
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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mkonomtupu wrote:The things I heard Muthaura say:- Mimi sio suspect ninauza nyama na mutura pare ngara, harambee house na statehouse..sasa nilikutiriwa nikiuza mitura kama ya mbao au ya kumi
Sasa kuona siwezi goja Ocampo,nikatoka mbio, sasa akakuja na kitu inaitwa bonoko summons akaniwekerea
Mimi sina watu wetu mama ni chokora, baba ni chokora na nimezaliwa pale kwa chochoro..sasa inabidi hata mimi nijizuiye kidogo
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Rank: User Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 53
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'mkonomtupu', I would describe you as 'kichwatupu'. Do you even comprehend what you have put down?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/28/2011 Posts: 98
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the second batch of the Ocampo six have good lawyers-based on what we've heard so far
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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vinii wrote:.....seems okampo's evidence will be shredded.... ...Those lawyers were not saying much with their many words...By saying that he does not know why hussein is there...That is not being witty at all and he is not shredding anything...It is all theatrics as one of the defense lawyers put it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Magigi wrote:vinii wrote:.....seems okampo's evidence will be shredded.... ... Those lawyers were not saying much with their many words...By saying that he does not know why hussein is there...That is not being witty at all and he is not shredding anything...It is all theatrics as one of the defense lawyers put it. honestly, i felt the same too... i think their tactic thus far is to punch holes in the evidence presented, to divert attention and bring in all faults they can find in technicalities... otherwise, i didnt see someone trying to prove that all those who were there were innocent.... or may be that is what is done at the trial... trying not to pre-empt...may be... if that is not the case, then they arent doing enough.... unless they know 'technicalities' with such a court are more important than the real evidence... which tends to be the case with organisations owned by different jurisdictions. Uhuru's counsel, he sounded more like a prosecutor to RAO than a defense team to UK.... Its like he was there to incriminate RAO and not to defend his client... Finding RAO guilty doesn't exonerate his client from any wrong doing...
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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Those guys saying that the lawyers didn't say anything worthwhile should know that ogambo is yet to present hs case. These were only opening statements. On Christ Alone
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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nesta wrote:Those guys saying that the lawyers didn't say anything worthwhile should know that ogambo is yet to present hs case. These were only opening statements. Totally agree, i still think Ocampo should consider himself very lucky if he even manages to have any of the case involving the three confirmed. Guys come here to tell us sijui this lawyer is crap mara sijui they are only talking about Raila yet hata hakuna kitu ya maana Ocampo amesema. So far he has failed to unleash anything that seriously proves the suspects have a case to answer.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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HE reminds me of Bowry during the goldenberg inquiry he was very passionate and personal with his argument. But if you are to compare this group of lawyers with the first Lot you can spot a huge difference...We are going to enjoy this ride MORE. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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TAZ wrote:nesta wrote:Those guys saying that the lawyers didn't say anything worthwhile should know that ogambo is yet to present hs case. These were only opening statements. Totally agree, i still think Ocampo should consider himself very lucky if he even manages to have any of the case involving the three confirmed. Guys come here to tell us sijui this lawyer is crap mara sijui they are only talking about Raila yet hata hakuna kitu ya maana Ocampo amesema. So far he has failed to unleash anything that seriously proves the suspects have a case to answer. @Taz ...I disagree. It is too early to judge...He is saving the best for last...You don't dance yourself lame before the main dance. ...Na kumbe unatokeanga huku...Ungekaa tu huko kwa sports...Huku ni takataka tu...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Wendz wrote:Magigi wrote:vinii wrote:.....seems okampo's evidence will be shredded.... ... Those lawyers were not saying much with their many words...By saying that he does not know why hussein is there...That is not being witty at all and he is not shredding anything...It is all theatrics as one of the defense lawyers put it. honestly, i felt the same too... i think their tactic thus far is to punch holes in the evidence presented, to divert attention and bring in all faults they can find in technicalities... otherwise, i didnt see someone trying to prove that all those who were there were innocent.... or may be that is what is done at the trial... trying not to pre-empt...may be... if that is not the case, then they arent doing enough.... unless they know 'technicalities' with such a court are more important than the real evidence... which tends to be the case with organisations owned by different jurisdictions. Uhuru's counsel, he sounded more like a prosecutor to RAO than a defense team to UK.... Its like he was there to incriminate RAO and not to defend his client... Finding RAO guilty doesn't exonerate his client from any wrong doing... LIKE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Wendz wrote: Uhuru's counsel, he sounded more like a prosecutor to RAO than a defense team to UK.... Its like he was there to incriminate RAO and not to defend his client... Finding RAO guilty doesn't exonerate his client from any wrong doing...
There is a court statement in vioja mahakamani, that goes like: Mshukiwa , ukiwa na wengine ambao hawako kwa hii korti , mnatuumiwa kwamba mlihusika kufanya hualifu.... Is the mshtakiwa supposed to tell the judge to bring hao wengine ambao hawako kwa hii Korti ....can a culprit use it as part of the defense....Just asking 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Wendz wrote:Magigi wrote:vinii wrote:.....seems okampo's evidence will be shredded.... ... Those lawyers were not saying much with their many words...By saying that he does not know why hussein is there...That is not being witty at all and he is not shredding anything...It is all theatrics as one of the defense lawyers put it. honestly, i felt the same too... i think their tactic thus far is to punch holes in the evidence presented, to divert attention and bring in all faults they can find in technicalities... otherwise, i didnt see someone trying to prove that all those who were there were innocent.... or may be that is what is done at the trial... trying not to pre-empt...may be... if that is not the case, then they arent doing enough.... unless they know 'technicalities' with such a court are more important than the real evidence... which tends to be the case with organisations owned by different jurisdictions. Uhuru's counsel, he sounded more like a prosecutor to RAO than a defense team to UK.... Its like he was there to incriminate RAO and not to defend his client... Finding RAO guilty doesn't exonerate his client from any wrong doing... Again, what is the work of the defense team? Does it not include punching holes in the evidence provided by the prosecutor? That is the reason why there's a pre-trial. The pre-trial is not about finding someone guilty. It's about finding sufficient hard evidence to warrant a full trial. UK's counsel was busy showing videos of UK promoting peace vis-a-vis RAO's remarks and his supporters who claimed no RAO no peace. This is a way of proving his client was not fanning war but promoting peace. The onus is on the prosecutor. We always see criminals walking scotfree because prosecutors didnt carry out thorough investigations. I'm still of the opinion that justice needs to be served, but not miscarried justice as the lawyers said. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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