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CMC MOTORS Boardroom Wars
mnjoro
#51 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2011 10:02:39 AM
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@FUNKY ,@The Deal
If i were you i would say you still hold and wait for the company to reorganize itself.
FUNKY
#52 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2011 3:05:09 PM
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The market seems to have taken this news positively as the share price has risen to 13.50/-.
Cde Monomotapa
#53 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2011 3:40:04 PM
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mukiha wrote:
Supposing my C&F company lands the deal to clear CMC goods. Then from the profits I make out of it, I start buying CM shares on the stock market... then to further consolidate my gains, I decide to buy vehicle for my fleet from the same CMC...

Soon enough, I will have enough shares to warrant a seat in the board, after all, if the company fails, I stand to lose substantially...

Then I might have enough for two seats.... and eventually the Chairmanship....

Would you classify this as conflict of interest?

mukiha
#54 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2011 4:36:29 PM
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according to http://live.mystocks.co.ke CMC closed 7.14% up [13.50], but wazua hasn't recorded that as a top gainer...
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mozenrat
#55 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2011 4:55:24 PM
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Wendz wrote:

If a company is practicing good governance, it is Conflict of Interest "whichever angle you look at it"... Soon enough, he might start approving credit for his "trucks-buying" company exposing us to losses incase his company fails for (lets say)reasons beyond his control .... after all, "both" companies are his, right? Complete conflict of interest it does not matter if we are benefiting now or not......


Honestly, I think we're taking this "good governance" issue too far... Surely approval of credit falls under the purview of executive and/or operational management and not the board of governors.. For some of this stuff, its a balance, by giving an ESOP to employees KenolKobil runs the risk that the employees may deliberately mistate financials in order to buoy the share price... on the other hand the ESOP enhances loyalty and could actually drive the employees to work harder if tied to performance
mukiha
#56 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:47:45 AM
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mozenrat wrote:
Wendz wrote:

If a company is practicing good governance, it is Conflict of Interest "whichever angle you look at it"... Soon enough, he might start approving credit for his "trucks-buying" company exposing us to losses incase his company fails for (lets say)reasons beyond his control .... after all, "both" companies are his, right? Complete conflict of interest it does not matter if we are benefiting now or not......


Honestly, I think we're taking this "good governance" issue too far... Surely approval of credit falls under the purview of executive and/or operational management and not the board of governors.. For some of this stuff, its a balance, by giving an ESOP to employees KenolKobil runs the risk that the employees may deliberately mistate financials in order to buoy the share price... on the other hand the ESOP enhances loyalty and could actually drive the employees to work harder if tied to performance


@mozenrat; you've put it quite well. Actually, by getting the C&F deal, I become an "employee" of CMC - I do some work for them and they pay me. Actually, tender documents refer to the parties as "employer" and "employee".... So, my buying of the company shares is a kind of ESOP, only that I buy mine at the market rate...
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mukiha
#57 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:34:14 AM
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Why is wazua "blind" to the price movements of this stock?

It is now 4.4% DOWN and still doesn't feature on the list of top losers... actually that should be BOTTOM losers!
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FUNKY
#58 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:49:50 AM
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Someone is offering 28,500 CMC shares at 14.85/-.
FUNKY
#59 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:55:35 AM
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CMC shares rise on news of boardroom changes.

http://www.businessdaily...64/-/y5j9pa/-/index.html
FUNKY
#60 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:06:51 AM
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The newly appointed chairman Mr. Joel Kibe, CEO Mr. Bill Lay,and finance director Mary Ngige have organised a mid morning press meeting at the Hilton Hotel Nairobi today to address the press on the boardroom changes.
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