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Cleptomania
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:13:12 PM
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what is the impact of raising the call rates?
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#2 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 12:39:54 AM
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At 3 posts you probably 've not heard somebody ask for a link to confirm ur stori!
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#3 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 2:21:09 AM
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High charges loom in planned review of mobile phone tariffs

The story is true enough. Here's the link...

http://www.businessdaily...-/14pdjsbz/-/index.html

The theory that Safcom wants to increase call rates in order to protect declining profits sounds very plausible to me.

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#4 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 7:29:16 AM
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Anyone smell something here......Airtel boss goes to Tanzania(A Vodafone company)...less than a week later Safcon (Vodafone) says call prices will increase.. Ama i am thinking beyond the box.
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Gordon Gekko
#5 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 8:09:56 AM
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I support the increase and really wish we go back to Ksh 8. Service have really deteriorated since the rates went down, dropped calls, unclear network, congestion etc. Mobile phones are not a reliable means of business anymore.
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#6 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 8:25:40 AM
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SUFERINGCOM can increase the rates if they wish to.As for me,I haven't used a Sufericom line for more than two years and I care less what they do or don't do...
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#7 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 8:42:41 AM
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Its the only way to save airtel & yu from collapse.
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#8 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 8:54:06 AM
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All tthe telcos will raise their call rates. Safcom must have judged the market to be confident that the competitors don't have a choice. The volatile exchange rate this yr will have a huge increase on the cost of maintenance for those that don't have hedges like KQ. High inflation mostly means less consumer spending. Less revenues for any biz, but they'll have to hike rates to protect the little money they can make.
Airtel will feel the most consumer wrath on hiking rates being the cheerleader for the current price war. Kamikaze biz practices never end nicely. Btw did they launch their 3G in KE like in India?
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#9 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 8:58:31 AM
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@hisah 3g?hawana doo infact orange has overtaken airtel.
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#10 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 9:04:29 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
I support the increase and really wish we go back to Ksh 8. Service have really deteriorated since the rates went down, dropped calls, unclear network, congestion etc. Mobile phones are not a reliable means of business anymore.


Seconded; but I prefer 5bob.

There is no point being told that you call will cos 50cts yet you can't complete a conversation.

Perhaps some should come up with a segregated tariff structure where those like myself and GG who prefer quality can pay a premium but get preferential treatment on network allocation and the rest can join the long queue waiting for us to complete our deals... and they can also have their calls dropped when we want to use the network....
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#11 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 9:28:34 AM
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@GG/Mukiha,
Some opinions are treason.....but i concur in some way that the quality of service have dropped below sea level.Safaricom being the biggest victim.To be honest,their services(With the exception of M-besha)are absolutely awful.
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Impunity
#12 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 9:51:44 AM
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Kama bei ya Unga went up, sembuse call rates?
Let them go back to Kes.30/min who cares!
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#13 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 9:55:22 AM
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I Might be ignorant but why cant the telcos exploit the VOIP technology which I believe is cheaper...any way once safaricom hikes its rates and YU retains its calling rates then guess what I would do....AM DITCHING MY SAF LINE 4GOOD.

As we are speaking I hav had it with safaricom constant network issues its as if its blaming its ardent customers for using its network.

In my opinion safaricom is changing its strategy from Mass to niche.They seem to think that Data is the future so Voice is dead...they are going to regret this if thats what they are planning.



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#14 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 10:11:34 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
I support the increase and really wish we go back to Ksh 8. Service have really deteriorated since the rates went down, dropped calls, unclear network, congestion etc. Mobile phones are not a reliable means of business anymore.


Seconded; but I prefer 5bob.

There is no point being told that you call will cos 50cts yet you can't complete a conversation.

Perhaps some should come up with a segregated tariff structure where those like myself and GG who prefer quality can pay a premium but get preferential treatment on network allocation and the rest can join the long queue waiting for us to complete our deals... and they can also have their calls dropped when we want to use the network....

Once upon a time there was a company called Kencell an I think it tried the same thing and failed miserably. Premium/ niche cannot work in a country of 10 millionaires and 10 million beggars.
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#15 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 10:12:18 AM
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Airtel have already increased the cost of calling in Uganda. Its only a matter of time before all the providers up their prices. Once again a regulator, CCK, bungled. Low pricing would lead to some providers such as YU becoming insolvent - leading to take over by the big 2 and eventual formation of an industry pricing cartel. The newer players would be unable to upgrade their networks due to the low prices. There would be no winners in the strategy adopted by Airtel and CCK failed to see that.
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#16 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 10:39:36 AM
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Interesting... Both CCK & CBK are on the ropes...
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mukiha
#17 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 12:19:55 PM
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bkismat wrote:
....Premium/ niche cannot work in a country of 10 millionaires and 10 million beggars.



Tell that to Bata, or Deacons, or Java House....
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#18 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 12:25:41 PM
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"Talk is cheap" not anymore

It will soon cost you more to talk: Bob of Safaricom warns that calling rates are on the way up
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selah
#19 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 1:07:08 PM
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safaricom is to blame for all this mess....when Airtel mooted an infrastructure sharing Idea safaricom was against it...only to consider it later..now they are planning a venture with TelKom to form an infrastructure company.

safaricom in its endavor to protect its market share has continually created an inefficient company that is bulky and costly to maintain.

Airtel on the other hand, its partnership with YU has made it possible to shore up some of its infrastructural costs.

its customer care is as worse as its used to be one is even left to wonder what was the purpose of investing in a calling centre that does not tackle the problem it was meant to solve.

safaricom should concentrate on its core business offering telecommunication solutions...the other non-core functions should be OUTSOURCED.





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#20 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 3:17:38 PM
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Is there any country in the world with calling rates as low as Kenya today? Even China, with around 1 billion subscribers (and where low cost high volume models could easily work), tariffs are 30 yuan cts per min (equivalent to kes. 6 per minutes). The only way for tariffs to go in up for us susbcribers to get the kind of service we deserve and demand!
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