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Is it really worthy the bet?
underweight
#1 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 5:59:07 PM
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Hi Wazuan, a friend of mine is contemplating between taking a Sacco loan of KShs 2 Million at an interest rate of 1% (one Percent per Month payable in 4 yrs) and invest in the NSE. At the end of it all he will pay a total interest of 24.5% of the principal sum taken or invest an equivalent through a fixed monthly installment for 3 yr. Wat is the best course of action between this two considering the market condition at the moment? Your advice is highly appreciated.
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#2 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 6:22:41 PM
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Lot's of jitters right now, which makes loans extremely risky. Loans at the NSE are a no-no for me even during good times, sembuse sasa?
Which are the counters your buddy is interested in?
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QW25071985
#3 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 6:27:12 PM
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but some stocks are tooo tempting ...access kenya at 5 bob surely . that i can take a loan for ..lol
Abby
#4 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 6:50:20 PM
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underweight wrote:
Hi Wazuan, a friend of mine is contemplating between taking a Sacco loan of KShs 2 Million at an interest rate of 1% (one Percent per Month payable in 4 yrs) and invest in the NSE. At the end of it all he will pay a total interest of 24.5% of the principal sum taken or invest an equivalent through a fixed monthly installment for 3 yr. Wat is the best course of action between this two considering the market condition at the moment? Your advice is highly appreciated.



Why can't he put that cash in well-selected plots going for around 300k each. After 4 years, he will rejoice!!
underweight
#5 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 6:57:15 PM
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@ YCSUN the guy is eying Safaricom at 2.50-3.00 Range, Equity KCB and KPLC below 15 Bob and KenolKobil.(not in order of preference) He prefers just to hold not more than 4 counter. @abby the guy had not considered plots but I'll advice on that though he feel prices have been exaggerated so much and once he was in sh*t and could not manage to get a suitable buyer for his plot in Kitengela in good time.
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Abby
#6 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:03:35 PM
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I agree, I have also been in a situation where I have wanted to sell a plot .... but getting a buyer is hard when you want quick money ..... the guy should have some of that money in an easy-to-liquidate investment.

I have ended up selling two prime properties at not the best prices because I needed the cash fast!!

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underweight
#7 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:11:21 PM
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@abby so you can also confirm how hard it is selling a plot when U are in need of money eeh? That implies that most properties values have been hyped. Was in Kitale the other day and was surprised to be told that a qtr plot is going for a 1.5 Million plus yet a 3 Bedroom house is going below 10K. I wonder wat one can do with such a plot to have a higher rate of return in investment.
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Abby
#8 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:20:11 PM
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Very true: myself, I have stopped buying properties that are inflated .... Kenyans do not have money yet those that have things on sell think that we are rich people.

On the other hand, I am happy we have so many developers putting up flats, etc. Soon the supply will be so much that these same properties will be going cheap ....
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#9 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:37:53 PM
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Safcom @ 2.5 will give him 800k shares. Not bad. Could make him an extra 2m in 3 years
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#10 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:54:37 PM
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underweight wrote:
Hi Wazuan, a friend of mine is contemplating between taking a Sacco loan of KShs 2 Million at an interest rate of 1% (one Percent per Month payable in 4 yrs) and invest in the NSE. At the end of it all he will pay a total interest of 24.5% of the principal sum taken or invest an equivalent through a fixed monthly installment for 3 yr. Wat is the best course of action between this two considering the market condition at the moment? Your advice is highly appreciated.

sema tu ni wewe.

3 yrs you say? From econometrics, using confidence band models, it was shown that economic indicators take 2 -8 quarters to adjust to a major decision/policy change. eg inflation, unemployment etc etc So factor this to your question and take a look at whts happening around. CBk mopping up pesa from the economy, so taking a loan now is better than later when rates go up.

Taking it to the market is another thng all together. Undoubtedly, the market will go up, but like a good market, you cant predict when and how fast and by how much.

my advice would be take the loan, lipa na mshahara (not with gains from the market), sit tight n be a millionare 8 quarters from now. bt dnt pick paka na access unless they show a turn around. Falling revenues is as discharge is to the clap. even if profits go up. You can only cut costs so much.

fikira zangu tu.
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