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is it worth investing on rental flats?
jamplu
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:07:44 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
U can ask the Western world if they still believe real estate prices can only go up or if there no capital losses or default risks on "safe" bonds. Basic investing knowledge informs us that all investment classes have cycles of boom & bust. smile




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Cde Monomotapa
#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12:50 PM
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That's why Buffet & Trump don't belong in the same billionares club and ratings Laughing out loudly
groupielove
#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:47:07 PM
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With a Return of 100k per month, it will take a solid 8 years and 3 months to recoup the capital. This maybe long esp if some houses are unoccupied, rent is eaten up by renovations and utility bills like elect and hiring agents to collect rent and caretakers. At the end of the day, you will start eating your profits after 10+ years
african coloner
#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:02:21 PM
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groupielove wrote:
With a Return of 100k per month, it will take a solid 8 years and 3 months to recoup the capital. This maybe long esp if some houses are unoccupied, rent is eaten up by renovations and utility bills like elect and hiring agents to collect rent and caretakers. At the end of the day, you will start eating your profits after 10+ years


10 years wait is a longitme unless you are investing for your children.
Pablo
#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:13:53 PM
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This is an argument that has been there since time in memorial.

Its all about your risk appetite.

Also without being too contraversial I can bet my A** that all those saying real estate is not worth it are likely to be below 35 or so and can only dream of Kshs. 10M. Those who have access to that type of cash am sure would jump to such an opportunity as GG has pointed out.

When I was younger I used to say why buy a house and pay an 85k mortguage while I could pay 30k for the same house and invest the rest in the stock exchange. By the way at that time my rented a 4br corner house with Sq in south C was being offered to me at 7M. Today its just unaffordable. Not only have i sank 6 yrs rent and did not buy stocks with the balance but also missed out on 8M capital gains. Mind you simmilar houses now rent for 60k.

So u choose.
For Sport
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:14:37 PM
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african coloner wrote:
groupielove wrote:
With a Return of 100k per month, it will take a solid 8 years and 3 months to recoup the capital. This maybe long esp if some houses are unoccupied, rent is eaten up by renovations and utility bills like elect and hiring agents to collect rent and caretakers. At the end of the day, you will start eating your profits after 10+ years


10 years wait is a longitme unless you are investing for your children.


Investing for your children is not a bad idea.
(Hmmm. How much further I'd be if someone had invested for me).
eco
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:14:59 PM
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african coloner wrote:
groupielove wrote:
With a Return of 100k per month, it will take a solid 8 years and 3 months to recoup the capital. This maybe long esp if some houses are unoccupied, rent is eaten up by renovations and utility bills like elect and hiring agents to collect rent and caretakers. At the end of the day, you will start eating your profits after 10+ years


10 years wait is a longitme unless you are investing for your children.


Accumulating wealth is little by little, step by step, unless you are insunuating get-rich quick ponziish which has no truimph ripping others or being ripped off.
kaifastus
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:35:14 PM
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Returns from real estate (in Kenya) have outperformed all other asset classes...however rental income has stagnated for some time now. in real estate, LOCATION,LOCATION,LOCATION is key. stocks MAY give you a better return but risks are so high you can also lose half that amount. there are many new real estate moguls but i doubt whether there are new Warren Buffets. My verdict: Invest 80% of tthe 10M in real estate(especially if you have the passion).spread the rest in carefully selected equities.
Cde Monomotapa
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:40:35 PM
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Pablo wrote:
This is an argument that has been there since time in memorial.

Its all about your risk appetite.

Also without being too contraversial I can bet my A** that all those saying real estate is not worth it are likely to be below 35 or so and can only dream of Kshs. 10M. Those who have access to that type of cash am sure would jump to such an opportunity as GG has pointed out.

When I was younger I used to say why buy a house and pay an 85k mortguage while I could pay 30k for the same house and invest the rest in the stock exchange. By the way at that time my rented a 4br corner house with Sq in south C was being offered to me at 7M. Today its just unaffordable. Not only have i sank 6 yrs rent and did not buy stocks with the balance but also missed out on 8M capital gains. Mind you simmilar houses now rent for 60k.

So u choose.

The problem here is personal. He neither bought stocks nor a house. No assets at all basically. Lesson to be learn't folks smile
Pablo
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:44:59 PM
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@Cde Monomotapa Its not personal.

90% of you younger guys will fall into this. I put this here for your benefit.
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