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Wazuan
#1 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 2:52:23 PM
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Just came across this: anyone onboard with more info? Btw there seems to be a number of these resorts coming up all over Kenya.

http://www.aberdarehills.com/aboutus.html. Others include:

Sergoit: http://www.sergoit.co.ke/

http://www.sangarehills.co.ke/

http://vipingoridge.com/

http://wimbimbi.com/

not to forget the controversial Tatu City.


beta2alpha
#2 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 3:02:54 PM
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2 of these are not golf courses. There's migaa as well
For Sport
#3 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 3:36:11 PM
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And what happened to the Kenya Railways Golf City ?

There seemed to be a lot of interest back then - apparently even from the likes of Donald Trump
kiriita
#4 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 3:42:11 PM
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beta2alpha wrote:
2 of these are not golf courses. There's migaa as well


Agreed. Maybe the title should read 'upcoming holiday home schemes - and include others like Marina [Mombasa], Naiposha/Longonot Gates/Malewa Bay [Naivasha] & Mukima [Laikipia].

My question: who in Kenya [since all other than Mukima, Marina & Vipingo which are mainly targeting foreigners] will/are buying all these? As in are the other [excepting me] Kenyans doing that fine?
Elder
#5 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 4:17:19 PM
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kiriita wrote:
beta2alpha wrote:
2 of these are not golf courses. There's migaa as well


Agreed. Maybe the title should read 'upcoming holiday home schemes - and include others like Marina [Mombasa], Naiposha/Longonot Gates/Malewa Bay [Naivasha] & Mukima [Laikipia].

My question: who in Kenya [since all other than Mukima, Marina & Vipingo which are mainly targeting foreigners] will/are buying all these? As in are the other [excepting me] Kenyans doing that fine?

I hope those targeting foreigners are not freehold as you cannot legally own a freehold property in Kenya if you are a foreigner. If it is agricultural land (like most freehold are) then you can't even lease.
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mucho
#6 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2011 1:55:40 PM
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Interesting point you raise there @Elder. But what of Kruger of the Sergoit hill fame (farm !), is he not a foreigner and is the farm not on freehold ? if not, why is he holding a whole community in ransom ?

http://www.standardmedia...000041132&cid=4&
For Sport
#7 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2011 2:47:06 PM
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@ mucho

Which community is he holding at ransom. Are you suggesting that only certain Kenyans should own land there?
mucho
#8 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2011 4:24:34 PM
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@For Sport, not quite. All am suggesting is that the said community should be given preference (and assistance) to own the land if their intentions are to cultivate over speculators selling pieces of an imaginary golf course.
Elder
#9 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2011 4:53:10 PM
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mucho wrote:
Interesting point you raise there @Elder. But what of Kruger of the Sergoit hill fame (farm !), is he not a foreigner and is the farm not on freehold ? if not, why is he holding a whole community in ransom ?

http://www.standardmedia...00041132&cid=4&


If it is an Agricultural land then I don't see how he could have legally held it. Some foreigners would use nominees and companies to hold such land which is still illegal but they risk it anyway.

Section 9 (C) of the Land Control Act provides that:

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9. (1) In deciding whether to grant or refuse consent in respect of a controlled transaction, a land control board shall-
.........

(c)refuse consent in any case in which the land or share is to be disposed of by way of sale, transfer, lease, exchange or partition to a person who is not -

(i) a citizen of Kenya
; or

(ii) a private company or co-operative society all of whose members are citizens of Kenya; or (iii) group representatives incorporated under the Land (Group Representatives) Act; or

(iv) a state corporation within the meaning of the State Corporation Act.



Whether agricultural or not if the Sergoit Hill land is freehold (which I suspect it is) then under the new Consitution he cannot hold the land. Maybe that is why he is getting rid of it.

Article 65 of the Constitution provides that:

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65. (1) A person who is not a citizen may hold land on the basis of leasehold tenure only, and any such lease, however granted, shall not exceed ninety-nine years.

(2) If a provision of any agreement, deed, conveyance or document of whatever nature purports to confer on a person who is not a citizen an interest in land greater than a ninety-nine year lease, the provision shall be regarded as conferring on the person a ninety-nine year leasehold interest, and no more.

(3) For purposes of this Article—

(a) a body corporate shall be regarded as a citizen only if the body corporate is wholly owned by one or more citizens; and

(b) property held in trust shall be regarded as being held by a citizen only if all of the beneficial interest of the trust is held by persons who are citizens.

(4) Parliament may enact legislation to make further provision for the operation of this Article.


I always find it interesting that there are several freehold property being offered for sale to foreigners. They should buy them at their own risk for if they successfully register them (this being Kenya and TKK being a way of life) one can always apply to void their ownership of such property as unconstitutional.
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kiriita
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:23:15 AM
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@Elder

Foreigners were mostly holding/acquiring agricultural land [even freehold] through public companies - and I believe this was legit, otherwise the likes of Finlays, Ol Jogi & others [as well as the listed Kakuzi, REA Vipingo etc] would be violators.

I agree that under the current constitution they can no longer acquire freehold interests - but they will be able to buy land on leasehold tenure in the same way.

What do the transitional provisions provide in respect of freehold land [or land held under a 999 year lease] owned by foreigners prior to August 27 2010?
african coloner
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:18:54 PM
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Wazuan wrote:
Just came across this: anyone onboard with more info? Btw there seems to be a number of these resorts coming up all over Kenya.

http://www.aberdarehills.com/aboutus.html. Others include:

Sergoit: http://www.sergoit.co.ke/

http://www.sangarehills.co.ke/

http://vipingoridge.com/

http://wimbimbi.com/

not to forget the controversial Tatu City.




you forgot mamauka in naivasha near naiposha
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