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10 reasons for investing in Mutual funds........
Bee_Ruto
#31 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 11:31:21 AM
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Nabwire,
I don't know where to start but i will address them all. I understand when you dont respond for a while, i get busy at times too that i dont even get time to log on.
Correction, the bank in which my money was withdrawn was equity then i transfered to KCB. Equity has online banking and dollar account and that was why i opened account with them. I don't know if KCB now have online banking, I should check with them.
I Just opened etrade..video lessons on diverification, They say instead of the myth ati but low sell high, he said you never can time low..so buy high and sell higher.
US picks in my mind are FDX, thought wallmart and cosco, A friend talked of NYB, USB, IBCA..Etrade is free for first 2 months, a friend who has been using it for 2 years says fees are minimal.
thank you for the rest of the info, I appreciate it
accelriskconsult
#32 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 12:55:56 PM
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young wrote:
Consider the different asset class mix

(i) Real Estate Trust (REIT)
(ii) Equity Fund
(iii) Money Market Fund
(iv) Balanced Fund (50% Equity, 50% Money market).


A good mix of at least 2 of above is recommended.
As a rule let part of your funds be managed by experts as it is a leverage.



I totally understand CDE's argument against Kenyan mutual funds.

You will be lucky if they tell you who the fund manager is let alone explaining their investment philosophy.

The link below has an interesting take on mutual funds which ticks all the boxes in the Kenyan market

http://www.nytimes.com/2...recg&pagewanted=all

http://www.businessinsid...nsen-mutual-funds-2011-8
Bee_Ruto
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:11:19 AM
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Nabwire,
on aug 12 you said not to sell any stocks but 13th you say i should dump kengen and safcom. Which is it? I know i will be selling at a great loss but like think also read that from etrade training that it better to cut my losses.
Nabwire
#34 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:18:08 AM
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Hi Bee
so what has the Etrade tutorials taught you? I am very wary of this tutorials, it usually amounts to just invest with us and everything else will be smooth. How much did you pay for the video? So Etrade is free for the first 2 months, after that how much do they charge? What is minimal? Do they have an annual fee plus i'm sure they charge you X amount to trade shares. Anyways i'm just a stickler for unnecessary fees.
About your stock picks, Costco and Walmart are definately a good buy, for the rest I dont really know about them so I cant advice. I still insist that Bank of America is a good buy, yes they are being sued by AIG and they had alot of exposure in the real estate meltdown that gave them bad publicity, BUT they are the largest bank in the US, that alone makes me prefer them over a smaller bank like US Bank which by the way is selling three times higher than BoA.Its your call.
About Safaricom, yes I told you not to sell your shares, but I also said this only holds if you had good shares to begin with. In my opinion Safaricom is not a good stock pick, it no longer enjoys monopoly in the Kenyan market, plus most people I know do not like their services. Being that it is a price competitve company, when these people find a better option, they will leave Safaricom which will eventually lead to the stock price falling. Sirius for example was trading around $2 back in 2008, today in 2011 it is still trading around $2. In the meantime inflation has eaten up its stock holders capital, and plus the stock is not going anywhere, if anything it may go lower. That was my analogy, and is the reason I told you that I would cut my losses, sell Safaricom and buy for example KCB at its current lows. Kengen I would need to do more research, I said I was 50/50 on it, but Safaricom is a definite sell in my books.
Bee_Ruto
#35 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:46:22 PM
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Nabwire,
Etrade tutorials are free while you have an account with them. And account is free for the first 60 days and they want money tranfered before the 60 days are up. Basically, i think they want you to be trading with them by the time the free period is over. The tutorials go from basic expalnantion of terms P/E, dividends even companies traded in NASdaq, DOW, S&P. Talk about diversification and really about the same info i have gotten from members here. Nothing new but for someone like me, it sticks bettter if repeated over and over by different sources. MY friend who has an account with them said he paid 75 dollars when he first joined and since only charged commission when he uses their brokers rather than do the trading himself.
How do you do it yourself? I thought you have to open such accounts or go through a broker to trade in NYSE.
Nabwire
#36 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:09:25 PM
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I knew it, repeat after me, nothing is FREE!! Your friend paid $75??? I wonder what the "commission" is? I'm too lazy to call them and ask how much they charge per trade. And the tutorials they give you seems like basic knowledge that you can access for free from your local library. Anyways its your money. My brokerage firm charges $20 a year, but they have waived the first 2 years charges, so I basically dont pay them maintenance fees till 2013. Then they charge $7 a trade for the first 15 trades, therefater its $15 a trade/ year. Since I want to buy for the logterm, this is an ideal arrangement for me.
By the way since Walmart is selling at $82, Walmart sells higher during recessions, you may want to wait for some kind of calamity to hit the company, so that the price goes down kidogo before you buy.
Bee_Ruto
#37 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04:17 AM
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Nabwire,
I have not transferred money to my etrade account yet. Can i have the info on your brokerage. I also want to invest long term so thats a better deal. Thanks for your help
QW25071985
#38 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2011 9:20:48 AM
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Bee_Ruto wrote:
Nabwire,
I have not transferred money to my etrade account yet. Can i have the info on your brokerage. I also want to invest long term so thats a better deal. Thanks for your help


try https://www.zecco.com

they dnt charge commision. Yes you heard me right.no commision on your stocks trade. They dnt. As long as you place >25 trades per month.
When depositing money you better use wire transfer as itis cheaper.
Nabwire
#39 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:46:17 AM
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Aii QW, now which novice investor trades 25 times a month? That deal sounds good only if you are a day trader or a speculator.
Bee, at this rate I am going to start charging you for info for real!!!! By the way I misquoted my company, I think its $7 for the first 25 trades per year. Ok I will be nice and share, I deal with www.vanguard.com. They are an online brokerage firm, no hassles, no hidden fees, I love them. And you are welcome...
Nabwire
#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:48:46 AM
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Oh by the way you need to maintain a $3,000 minimum with them.
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