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Fear on the Street: Inside the Stock Sell-Off
brian mackenzie
#91 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 3:56:22 PM
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@Fomoney,even if the Yen is been manipulated,it is a no brainer to note that all american jobs just like the trend in Kenya have shifted to China.China is growing at a very fast rate and even critics predict tht it'll be the number one economy by 2020 and judging from austerity measures in Europe and the American trend,maybe they will.On Friday America reported tht 22000 govt jobs were lost in the last one year most of them in the State of Minnesota which you may recall was closed for 2weeks because of lack of funds to pay govt employees.Nowadays China has competitive advantage on all products,go to any country and u'll find Chinese products.You can read abt this on http://diaryofarationalreader.blogspot.com
erifloss
#92 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 4:45:39 PM
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The US is trying its best to trash the S&P downgrade but it seems that the markets have a different opinion.
As for many expecting China to be the saviour come a double dip, i'm one of the people who believe that they won't coz though being the factory of the world they do depend on the disposable income of various citizens of Europe & the US & a huge consumer of African resources. So as much as China seems to be trying to play immune, they are going to be the biggest losers if the Euro & USD crash, as for the biggest beneficiaries i think Africa might come out tops.
Looking at the NSE as of now, my moolah is safer in Real Estate & the money market coz we still don't know how far down it will go with the current trend & geopolitical atmosphere.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
VituVingiSana
#93 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 8:32:46 PM
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If USD, Euro & GBP crash... the markets for China's goods will drop like a rock. After all most of china's exports include stuff most do not need (or can be made locally), be repaired for longer life or made to last longer by judicious use!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#94 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 9:23:45 PM
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http://www.africareview....6/-/8ydm61/-/index.html

Oh, btw... the great savior mugabe runs a torture camp where prisoners are forced to mine diamonds!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Cde Monomotapa
#95 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 9:46:41 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
http://www.africareview.com/News/Zimbabwe+torture+camp+discovered/-/979180/1215356/-/8ydm61/-/index.html

Oh, btw... the great savior mugabe runs a torture camp where prisoners are forced to mine diamonds!

Please...the mines are now KP Certified and they rake in $$ to increase civil service salos. Hahahaha.
youcan'tstopusnow
#96 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 10:17:52 PM
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Ati you can now buy the book "Dow 36,000: The New Strategy for Profiting From the Coming Rise in the Stock Market (Paperback)" for just a penny.

ColdTusker (I wonder where he went, *ahem*) reckons that it is still overpriced)

The authors must be banging their headsBrick wall

http://www.amazon.com/gp...=UTF8&condition=used
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
brian mackenzie
#97 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 10:24:23 PM
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@Vituvingi,i agree that China will also feel the problem bearing in mind that China,Russia and Japan have heavily invested their foreign reserves in American securities.By 2008, China had invested over $1.3 trillion dollars of its foreign reserves in US securities making it the 2nd largest investor after Japan.But u need to also note tht unlike other countries,China is a producing country,almost all the others are service producers who rely on capital or financial markets.That is the problem.In US for example,wallstreet barons enjoy all benefits and incentives such as tax benefits.Obama said tht they pay less taxes thn their secretaries.Yet manufacturers dont and hence the shift of jobs to cheaper labour in China.Thts what we should be worried abt as Kenya or as emerging markets,we need more producers and not better capital markets.If we had better producers and planning lyk Israel,we wouldnt be having food crisis in Kenya
VituVingiSana
#98 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 11:13:23 PM
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@brian - Yes, China will not be affected as much but they have an underlying political problem waiting to explode. When it does either the chinese govt will use the army to kill the protestors or there will be a 'takeover' in parts of China.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#99 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 11:14:41 PM
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@brian - Yes, China will not be affected as much but they have an underlying political problem waiting to explode. When it does either the chinese govt will use the army to kill the protestors or there will be a 'takeover' in parts of China.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#100 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 11:36:18 PM
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[quote=youcan'tstopusnow]Ati you can now buy the book "Dow 36,000: The New Strategy for Profiting From the Coming Rise in the Stock Market (Paperback)" for just a penny.

ColdTusker (I wonder where he went, *ahem*) reckons that it is still overpriced)

The authors must be banging their headsBrick wall

http://www.amazon.com/gp...UTF8&condition=used[/quote]

The author meant Dow priced in toilet paper. Now it's fixed smile
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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