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lovely2010
#171 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:43:45 AM
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Dont I love this...Supply over 1million, demand 200,000...I've changed my targets not 9.50 but 8.50 and below...
VituVingiSana
#172 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:16:39 AM
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lovely2010 wrote:
Dont I love this...Supply over 1million, demand 200,000...I've changed my targets not 9.50 but 8.50 and below...

Even though I have KK shares, part of me would not mind a drop to 8.50 coz (even 9.50) coz I would pile in as much possible!

It's like buying shares in 2002 when prices were rock bottom & firms were trading at absurdly low PERs!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Wendz
#173 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:37:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
lovely2010 wrote:
Dont I love this...Supply over 1million, demand 200,000...I've changed my targets not 9.50 but 8.50 and below...

Even though I have KK shares, part of me would not mind a drop to 8.50 coz (even 9.50) coz I would pile in as much possible!

It's like buying shares in 2002 when prices were rock bottom & firms were trading at absurdly low PERs!


My wishes too... holding my buy orders till ex-div
Genghis Khan
#174 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 9:36:13 AM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Got some avg. under 11.00. If i can net 20% in under 4weeks will be happy (enough to sell half the lot @13.50).

Will always buy if under 12 & I can get cash.

It a win/win: If it goes back to 10 i'm happy, if it goes to 15 i'm happy.


Got my fat Cables dividend cheque late (monday)...

I had always planned to buy more cables at the lower price...

Instead, I promptly split it 3ways... EQB/KCB/KK

Regional...
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
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guru267
#175 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 10:06:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

It's like buying shares in 2002 when prices were rock bottom & firms were trading at absurdly low PERs!


This is sooooo true.. I started trading a while ago but its been long since stocks offered so much value..

For example KK..
1. Forward PER= 4.5
2. NAV= approx. 1
3. Forward Dividend yield= 9.6%
4. Price/sales ratio= 0.12

By using discounted future value analyis This is disgustingly cheap for any stock let alone a gem like kenol..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#176 Posted : Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:13:06 PM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

It's like buying shares in 2002 when prices were rock bottom & firms were trading at absurdly low PERs!


This is sooooo true.. I started trading a while ago but its been long since stocks offered so much value..

For example KK..
1. Forward PER= 4.5
2. NAV= approx. 1
3. Forward Dividend yield= 9.6%
4. Price/sales ratio= 0.12

By using discounted future value analyis This is disgustingly cheap for any stock let alone a gem like kenol..


Unfortunately the investors mood aka sentiment has taken over the mind Sad And for this reason that's why I'm calling for cheaper prices in months to come.
Anyway a fat tail price disconnect esp for bluechips presents the best buying opportunity.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#177 Posted : Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:16:43 PM
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It occured to me today that the NSE values KK & SCAN similarly @15B* market cap. Surely...??
Hunderwear
#178 Posted : Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:12:00 PM
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hisah wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

It's like buying shares in 2002 when prices were rock bottom & firms were trading at absurdly low PERs!


This is sooooo true.. I started trading a while ago but its been long since stocks offered so much value..

For example KK..
1. Forward PER= 4.5
2. NAV= approx. 1
3. Forward Dividend yield= 9.6%
4. Price/sales ratio= 0.12

By using discounted future value analyis This is disgustingly cheap for any stock let alone a gem like kenol..


Unfortunately the investors mood aka sentiment has taken over the mind Sad And for this reason that's why I'm calling for cheaper prices in months to come.
Anyway a fat tail price disconnect esp for bluechips presents the best buying opportunity.


>>I tak it you mean price-NAV ratio of 1
Gordon Gekko
#179 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 7:52:00 AM
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I have reviewed my outlook of KK (based on my very pedestrian thinking).
In segment reporting, the revenue is divided thus:
Kenya Inland - 33.8M (31%)
Kenya other – 49.4M (46%)
EAC – 14.6M (14%)
Other subs – 10.5 (10%)
Total – 108M

I stand corrected, but am assuming Kenya inland are the retail outlets, while Kenya other is aviation, lubes etc.

I am convinced that the Kenya inland that accounts for 31% of revenue is either breaking even or making a loss on the basis of price controls and the discounts they give on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays. I will give the benefit of doubt and assume they are breaking even, therefore the earnings are just maintaining costs. On the basis of this argument, I will discount the eps of 1.21 (2010) by 31% for a revised eps of ksh 0.84.

If the market valued the performance of eps ksh 1.21 at ksh 12, it follows that the same market would have valued an eps of 0.84 at ksh 8.28.

It is agreed that the spectacular H1 results lifted the market valuation only by the value of the dividend, it then follows that ex div will be ksh 8.28. I am therefore revising my target price for repurchase of the stock at 8.30 from ksh 9.80.
VituVingiSana
#180 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 9:04:38 AM
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@GG - I will not comment on the share price BUT the EPS will be much higher than your full-year EPS of 0.84 [I will venture 2x]

Ver unlikely that 2H will be better than 1H but 1H had unique factors...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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