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Ruto led armed wing, Ocampo dossier says
freiks
#1 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 11:32:04 PM
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I at first laughed off this dude (OGAMBO)but it seems he has something up the sleeve, I wonder if this is just a tip of iceberg as he says what will the iceberg itself look like. Seems like the titanic is coming to sink G7 might be reduced to G5. But on the same wave what did the CAPTAIN know about the ship? Was he consulted?Think http://www.nation.co.ke/.../1/-/anm0bn/-/index.html
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:10:03 AM
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Huyu jamaa ni kama hatoboi. Politically, with such a damning report made public, im certain he will never recover. Yeye kwisha.
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masukuma
#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:55:20 AM
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Ogambo should read history first.... as the following contain factual inaccuracies. "In 2006 and 2007, the Network also had a Military Structure that included three 'Commanders' or 'Generals' (Commanders), all of whom reported to Ruto or Kosgey," "The organisational policy of the network was to punish and expel from the Rift Valley those perceived to support PNU, namely, Kikuyu, Kamba and Kisii civilians; and to gain power and create a uniform ODM voting block," all this is historically wrong! - PNU came into being in September of 2007, the party Kikuyus were perceived to have been supporting was Narc-Kenya (Maua Party) - it was in august 2007 that the Raila led ODM-K group ditched ODM-K and went to Mugambi Imanyara's party. - in 2006 Kambas were part of the original ODM-K group so it unbelievable to say that they that attacks against them were being planned in 2006. Any argument that uses ODM,PNU and planned violence against the Kamba in 2006 and half of 2007 is factually wrong!
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 6:26:56 AM
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@masukuma, cant put it better! But I still feel Ruto should be nailed. I wish there was a way of nailing ntibaba too
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:06:42 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Ogambo should read history first.... as the following contain factual inaccuracies. "In 2006 and 2007, the Network also had a Military Structure that included three 'Commanders' or 'Generals' (Commanders), all of whom reported to Ruto or Kosgey," "The organisational policy of the network was to punish and expel from the Rift Valley those perceived to support PNU, namely, Kikuyu, Kamba and Kisii civilians; and to gain power and create a uniform ODM voting block," all this is historically wrong! - PNU came into being in September of 2007, the party Kikuyus were perceived to have been supporting was Narc-Kenya (Maua Party) - it was in august 2007 that the Raila led ODM-K group ditched ODM-K and went to Mugambi Imanyara's party. - in 2006 Kambas were part of the original ODM-K group so it unbelievable to say that they that attacks against them were being planned in 2006. Any argument that uses ODM,PNU and planned violence against the Kamba in 2006 and half of 2007 is factually wrong!
Masukuma, brother, what you say is not wrong. But what he says is also not wrong. All those are a continuum. They refer to the same things as it were. What you are saying does not contradict what he is saying. For example, that PNU came into being in 2007 does still not discount that its supporters were Kikuyu and that plans (as planned earlier from 2006) to kill the Kikuyu are hence nullified and are non existent because PNU (that Kikuyu supported) came into existence in only 2007. ODM, PNU and what not are just labels. People were killed because they supported/didnt support those labels, or were thought to support/didnt support those labels.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:36:00 AM
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Annex B.....Now,that is where the real stuff is.
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nostoppingthis
#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:51:07 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Annex B.....Now,that is where the real stuff is.
and this is what the accused want released so that they can prepare their defense...mambo mbaya!!
mmunguti
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:57:09 AM
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I think the plan was in the works all along, the elections were just a catalyst!
majay
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:58:09 AM
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If R was wise enough,he would have shelved his political ambition till he clears his name.
all about Kenya in 2011
nostoppingthis
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:14:33 AM
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mmunguti wrote:
I think the plan was in the works all along, the elections were just a catalyst!
I think this is very true!! and now that there was a hierarchy in these attacks, does this explain why the current Kalenjin elders are mostly from the military? I wonder what the dossier on revenge attacks looks like? and who the accused will call as witnesses...WR may just call RAO...i wait to see
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