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KCB HY 2011 results are here!
mkonomtupu
#71 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 2:48:15 PM
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for those of us who have been in KCB for long, and given it capital in the rights issue over and over the results are disappointing, we've waited for KCB like an old house-wife to cook better food, to lose weight, be stylish to no avail. I've now put up half of my holding for sale nataka mpango wa kando. right now there are a lot of good bargains and I'm now looking for companies and brands that connect with the younger emerging middle-class
young
#72 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:44:16 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
@Kenyainvestor,

If I am to choose btw KCB and member, I will go for KCB but at a lower price cira 20bob

(i) The Equity biz model on SME from my point of view is not sustainable on the long term. It will rise NPL profile because unfortunately SMEs tend to have a high failure rate. I understabd equity gives loans to buy matatus and taxi cabs !

(2) On regional expansion to grow profits KCB is well ahead, the regional branches have turned from loss, break even position to profitability. Be aware that regional expansion is always at a cost. My Nigerian Bank UBA return losses in Uganda and Kenya, that does not mean it will not be profitable. Ecobank that is now a success had a similar experience. I do not think Equity will be different.

However I do not have any plan in my life time to buy either KCB or Equity shares. With 39,500 units in KCB and 10,000 units of Equity I am sitting on as my holder in your NSE I am okay with that. This returned a handsome dividend of Ksh51,000.

Please do not be suprised about 39,500 holdings it is because of 10 for 1 split in 2006.
I only got 2600 units it it balooned to 26,000 units.

I did not even participate in the last KCB rights as I rather picked some KPLC.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
young
#73 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:45:51 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
@Kenyainvestor,

If I am to choose btw KCB and member, I will go for KCB but at a lower price cira 20bob

(i) The Equity biz model on SME from my point of view is not sustainable on the long term. It will rise NPL profile because unfortunately SMEs tend to have a high failure rate. I understabd equity gives loans to buy matatus and taxi cabs !

(2) On regional expansion to grow profits KCB is well ahead, the regional branches have turned from loss, break even position to profitability. Be aware that regional expansion is always at a cost. My Nigerian Bank UBA return losses in Uganda and Kenya, that does not mean it will not be profitable. Ecobank that is now a success had a similar experience. I do not think Equity will be different.

However I do not have any plan in my life time to buy either KCB or Equity shares. With 39,500 units in KCB and 10,000 units of Equity I am sitting on as my holder in your NSE I am okay with that. This returned a handsome dividend of Ksh51,000.

Please do not be suprised about 39,500 holdings it is because of 10 for 1 split in 2006.
I only got 2600 units it it balooned to 26,000 units.

I did not even participate in the last KCB rights as I rather picked some KPLC.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
young
#74 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:47:28 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
@Kenyainvestor,

If I am to choose btw KCB and member, I will go for KCB but at a lower price cira 20bob

(i) The Equity biz model on SME from my point of view is not sustainable on the long term. It will consistently NPL profile because unfortunately SMEs tend to have a high failure rate. I understand equity gives loans to buy matatus and taxi cabs !

(2) On regional expansion to grow profits KCB is well ahead, the regional branches have turned from loss, break even position to profitability. Be aware that regional expansion is always at a cost. My Nigerian Bank UBA return losses in Uganda and Kenya, that does not mean it will not be profitable. Ecobank that is now a success had a similar experience. I do not think Equity will be different.

However I do not have any plan in my life time to buy either KCB or Equity shares. With 39,500 units in KCB and 10,000 units of Equity I am sitting on as part of my holding in your NSE I am okay with that. This returned a handsome dividend of Ksh 51,000 out of ksh 243,000 dividend income realised to date in 2011.
Mind you I started small and consistently from 2004.

Please do not be suprised about 39,500 holdings it is because of 10 for 1 split in 2006.
I only got 2600 units then it balooned to 26,000 units.

I did not even participate in the last KCB rights as I rather picked some KPLC to avoid
over exposure to banking stocks, because as I role I do not intent to hold more than 20% of my portfolio in the financial sector.

Call it my 2 cents no problem. Bear in mind that I am a non resident investor and income (high dividend yield stocks) is my principal investment objective in NSE
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
kenyainvestor
#75 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:18:12 PM
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young wrote:


(2) On regional expansion to grow profits KCB is well ahead, the regional branches have turned from loss, break even position to profitability.



What exactly are you trying to say here?

In the latest half year results, the following were the profits generated from regional subsidiaries:

Equity Bank - 622,601,000
KCB - 319,890,000
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kenyainvestor
#76 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:21:00 PM
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@young, I am aware that investing for dividends is your game
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Aguytrying
#77 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:58:27 PM
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@young. I know your stance of max 20% in financials. Why is this your stance? Its so hard to resist financials esp over the last 2 yrs.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
For Sport
#78 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:43:44 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@young. I know your stance of max 20% in financials. Why is this your stance? Its so hard to resist financials esp over the last 2 yrs.


he explained why here:
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=10101
ali
#79 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:01:35 PM
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Posts: 892
Hello good wazuans. Any update on thuo and title deeds? Called them leo. Was informed titles will be ready by sep/oct. Any new dvpts?
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#80 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:31:14 PM
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Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
kenyainvestor wrote:
young wrote:


(2) On regional expansion to grow profits KCB is well ahead, the regional branches have turned from loss, break even position to profitability.



What exactly are you trying to say here?

In the latest half year results, the following were the profits generated from regional subsidiaries:

Equity Bank - 622,601,000
KCB - 319,890,000

For the Subs to make 300M profit in H1, they 1st pulled out of a 1.2B loss over H1 2010. Thus, in essence the KCB subs made 1.5B.
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