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KCB HY 2011 results are here!
Mainat
#61 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 7:52:58 AM
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KCB is unlikely to ever overtake Equity on profitability because Equity is more a nimble, innovative player. Infact the greatest danger to Equity? The JM factor because he still hasn't found a real successor apart from Mary Wamae and she is an administrator not an entrepreneur.
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erifloss
#62 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 8:41:05 AM
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kenyainvestor wrote:
young wrote:
kenyainvestor wrote:
young wrote:
@kenyainvestor / other experts

Let me ask again, why does NSE reckon with PBT rather than PAT.? It is the only market I invest in that believes so much in PBT.
I think PAT is the key as it dictates the EPS.

Any thoughts or just the kenyan way ?


Does KCB and Equity get taxed at the same rate?

In 2005, the Kenya Government agreed to reduce the level of taxation
to 20% for a period of 5 years for any company that chose to list. This was done to encourage listing at the NSE. Equity listed in 2006.

Thus until next year, we cannot compare these two on Profit After Tax


Thanks for the explanation, let me set out to read the analysis in your blog.


Thanks @young. Though I would feel better if I am backed up by other Wazuans on my observationsmile

@Kenyaninvestor, its true. It was an incentive put up to attract more companies to list thus comparing KCB & EB on PBT is better off than PAT. What i'm not yet sure about is if the rate EB was using ended in the last financial period or will end during this financial period as i'm not sure whether a co. starts to use the rate on the financial period in the year of listing or the next.
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the deal
#63 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 9:45:36 AM
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KCB full year PAT will only be up by 13% to stand at Sh8 Billion and thus trail Equity who I project to do between Sh8.5-9 Billion
selah
#64 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 10:36:17 AM
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The reasons why KCB might never overtake Equity:

1.KCB is too conservative and rigid they take alot of time to respond to market needs and when they do it takes alot of time to take off take for instance mobile banking Iam sure we have KCB customers who dont even know its linked to MPESA.Agency banking they partners with posta which to me does not add any value since if you look at postas outlet distribution its the same as KCB and he working hrs are slightly the same.

2.KCB has never shed its elitist tag even when their strategy to target SME takes shape.I have dealt with both KCB and Equity and their management styles are totally different whereas Equity will mingle freely with its customers even visiting customer premises and homes to have a clear understanding of their loan applicants KCB rely solely with the audited accounts and bank account history...which to me makes them disconnect with their target customers.

3.KCB has one of the slowest service in the country it takes several minutes to serve a single client am sure if KCB had the same number of customers as Equity service will come to a stand still...I think they need to work on their customer turn around time.
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kenyainvestor
#65 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 11:41:58 AM
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Mainat wrote:
KCB is unlikely to ever overtake Equity on profitability because Equity is more a nimble, innovative player. Infact the greatest danger to Equity? The JM factor because he still hasn't found a real successor apart from Mary Wamae and she is an administrator not an entrepreneur.


@Mainat, Equity Bank is certainly more agile

As Equity continues its relentless expansion into other African territories, I doubt James Mwangi will be as 'hands on' as he is now.

@erifloss, I think this is the last year of the tax incentives
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kenyainvestor
#66 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 11:49:39 AM
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young wrote:
@Kenyainvestor,

I have fully digested your H1 KCB results analysis. I fully agree with you in most areas in principles.

But looking forward on the flat board I expect Equity to outperform KCB at FY 2011, though the absolute profit margin difference will almost thin out. I predict the table will turn to the advantage of KCB in FY 2012.

On the dividend yield which is of much interest to me, for FY 2011 I expect a 1.50 dividend from KCB (20% above 2010) and 1.20 (50% above 2010) dividend from Equity.


@young, I wouldn't be so bold as to predict that KCB will perform better than Equity from 2012. As, @VituVingiSana says, Equity will also be growing.

You say you bought KCB at an equivalent price of 5.1/=. Excellent for you!Applause But for those who are starting to invest now, would you still advise them to pick KCB over Equity?

Getting the Cost:Income ratio to 50% might take more than the 18 months you state, even if we consider the 1 billion rise in staff costs to be a one off
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gmg
#67 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 12:49:15 PM
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JM said that they have 2300 agents transacting 20% of the EBL transactions whereas KCB has only 700 agents to date.NOW wazuans dont you think Equity is restructuring its business better and quickly than KCB? EBL does not need to hire more staffs and its presence will be felt in every corner of this country, Wait for Equity to replicate its agency banking in other countries like uganda, rwanda and tanzania it will be miles ahed of KCB
selah
#68 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 1:34:15 PM
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@gmg Replicating agency banking in other countries will depend on their regulatory framework.

Here in Kenya,Equity agency banking is spreading like bush fire, actually I think it posses a serious threat to safaricom Mpesa network.

Funny KCB has not registered any price movement while supply outstrip demand the market was not impressed by the results or The bear is lurking.





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Hunderwear
#69 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 2:06:23 PM
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Anybody seeing this counter sub 20 before september?
gmg
#70 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2011 2:27:18 PM
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Agency banking will be replicated every where coz Kenya sets the pace for other countries in East Africa. to know the impact of EQUITY Agency visit the coutry side
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