jasonhill wrote:Everyone, SERIOUSLY? You would really discriminate against someone because of the university that they attended? It can't be possible that ALL of the students that hail from a particular institution of higher learning are not suitable for, or are less prepared for, a given position.
If I had two candidates, equally qualified and equally capable in my eyes, I'd make them battle it out for lowest pay... and then if they performed, I'd raise them back up incrementally.
I've done my fair share of hiring, and I've never cared about what Uni someone went to, and really don't even care if they went at all so long as they can do the job.
And I've had Harvard, Yale, and Princeton grads work beside me, above me, and for me as direct reports, and there has never been anything at all that I could consistently point to as being higher quality, knowledge, or capability to even some US public secondary-school grads, depending of the particular position and requirements for the job. And US public secondary isn't very good at all.
It's all about the individual. I need someone that can follow directions, follow-through, and follow-up more than anything else, and that one either learns, or doesn't learn, in primary.
And while we are on the subject of internships... my interns don't get paid.
Best,
Hill
....After reading this, and anyone who understand the process of hiring please help me point this out----Mr Hill, you claim that you've had a fair share of hirings and you've had all these interns from all these fancy schools--- I bet anyone who understand and have been part of hiring process will laugh at this because it clearly shows that you've never been involve with any part of hiring be it budgeting, screening, interviewing, selecting, name the process... you don't get it, I am very sure you don't work for any of these fortune 500 companies in any position that require college education otherwise you'd understand the process, I know you're in USA and I know you're educated based on your level of writing skills but mostly likely, you're foreign educated and did not go through the college system in USA.
First and foremost, school you attend do matter, atleast in corporate america and in the fortune 500 companies and if you dispute this just visit career site for one of these companies and see the recruiting events and see the list of the school they go for recruiting: They go to top schools in those specific cities only. Just to to explain further, I did my intership at Wells Fargo Bank and if you visit Wells Fargo career site looking for internships or entry level jobs, it gives you the list of the schools they'll be visiting for recruitment and it is only the best school and at the bottom of the list it say-if we're not visiting your school please submit your resume online and we will get back to you if we have a position that fits your profile and that is how it is across all these good companies.
In good companies entry level jobs and internship are very competitive and it is known fact that if you hire someone from a good school the odds of going wrong goes down, there is no time for try out, intership is only 3-4 months! Note that most of the managers went to these great schools and they have instant connections with the students from those school. Secondly as a hiring manager, you don't get to make the first pick, the recruiters screen the CVs/Resumes and only forward a few. You also made a wild suggestion that you let the applicants battle on the pay and take the lowest, that doesn't sound like anyone who has ever taken part in hiring process; you hire based on merit within a salary range not salary within marit range.
Lastly, you mention that your interns are not paid, which good intern from top 50 colleges will accept unpaid internship? Matter of facts these students get more than one offers for internship and just to make sure you know I know, I have recruited interns and it is a known fact that, the better the school you recruit from the hard it is to have those interns show up to work unless you're ranked high as a company; the reason is they get more than one offers. So don't say what you don't know