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OLYMPIA CAPITAL MATERIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
FUNKY
#31 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 11:17:04 AM
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Who Knows maybe this year Olympia might rebound back and surprise everyone. I bought some just for " SPECULATION PURPOSES" yesterday. Lets see what happens now.
Iborian
#32 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 11:23:50 AM
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Are you the same chap who bought CMC @12.90 and kept on urging others to do the same with a promise of it hitting 15?

FUNKY wrote:
Who Knows maybe this year Olympia might rebound back and surprise everyone. I bought some just for " SPECULATION PURPOSES" yesterday. Lets see what happens now.

Iborian
#33 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 11:25:42 AM
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BTW, has anyone seen the published Olpmpia results in any media other than online? Anything in the newspapers?
FUNKY
#34 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 11:41:58 AM
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@ Iborian-I was checking today's Daily Nation for the same but did not find...don't know about whether it has been published in EA Standard or not. As for CMC motors yes i did buy at 12.90/- and you just wait for their six month results i will have proven my self right.
accelriskconsult
#35 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 12:23:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@accelriskconsult - The Botswana subsidiary is also listed so audited locally. I doubt the Kenyan auditors go to Botswana if there is a local firm that audits the subsidiary. I think the same DCDM does the Botswana audits.

I have no issues with the auditor. In a past AGM, the auditor (to the discomfort of B.U.R.E.K.A.B.I.S.A) read a speech that criticized the Corporate Governance of Olympia! You should have seen the faces of the Directors. I thought they were going to fire DCDM on the spot!



VVV-veni vidi vici - thanks for the comment on the performance of DCDM.

The auditors of OCL Botswana are BDO Spencer. I would not trust them too much though.

There is a Swaziland pensions manager that had a member of staff who was stashing cheques in the drawer instead of banking and reinvesting the proceeds. The company was still getting a clean opinion from the external auditors.

What I learnt from external audit is that due diligence should include independent checks. Auditors look at a very narrow scope and will for example not be concerned with repatriation of profits through inflated management/consulting fees and concentration risk. Debt covenants, sweetheart deals with 'supposed' suppliers etc. All these are risks that an investor should be worried about. For all I know, Plush Products and Kalahari Floors could be making more money that is reported to Olympia. Some manufacturing companies go as far as creating entities that pose as customers in order to obtain borrowing or more funding from investors. The external auditor and lenders are especially blind to this kind of risk.

If bank credit appraisers started understanding what an unqualified opinion on the financial statements meant, quite a number of borrowers would be turned away.

selah
#36 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 12:31:46 PM
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What I fear about this company is when they report huge sums of money going to non controlling interests,while share holders are left with peanuts.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Magnetic Touch
#37 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 1:01:25 PM
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@Selah, Maybe Matu & Co. are the "non controlling interests".
VituVingiSana
#38 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 2:22:05 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@accelriskconsult - The Botswana subsidiary is also listed so audited locally. I doubt the Kenyan auditors go to Botswana if there is a local firm that audits the subsidiary. I think the same DCDM does the Botswana audits.

I have no issues with the auditor. In a past AGM, the auditor (to the discomfort of B.U.R.E.K.A.B.I.S.A) read a speech that criticized the Corporate Governance of Olympia! You should have seen the faces of the Directors. I thought they were going to fire DCDM on the spot!


VVV-veni vidi vici - thanks for the comment on the performance of DCDM.

The auditors of OCL Botswana are BDO Spencer. I would not trust them too much though.

There is a Swaziland pensions manager that had a member of staff who was stashing cheques in the drawer instead of banking and reinvesting the proceeds. The company was still getting a clean opinion from the external auditors.

What I learnt from external audit is that due diligence should include independent checks. Auditors look at a very narrow scope and will for example not be concerned with repatriation of profits through inflated management/consulting fees and concentration risk. Debt covenants, sweetheart deals with 'supposed' suppliers etc. All these are risks that an investor should be worried about. For all I know, Plush Products and Kalahari Floors could be making more money that is reported to Olympia. Some manufacturing companies go as far as creating entities that pose as customers in order to obtain borrowing or more funding from investors. The external auditor and lenders are especially blind to this kind of risk.

If bank credit appraisers started understanding what an unqualified opinion on the financial statements meant, quite a number of borrowers would be turned away.

For now I am stuck with the pieces of shit & until B.U.R.E.K.A.B.I.S.A is fired I will not encourage anyone to buy into it!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
FUNKY
#39 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 2:30:15 PM
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@ VituVingiSana - you bought them at what price?
Iborian
#40 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 2:42:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
For now I am stuck with the pieces of shit & until B.U.R.E.K.A.B.I.S.A is fired I will not encourage anyone to buy into it!

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