Funny enough, I do not begrudge Agwambo on this one. Maybe its cause i think Moi was terrible. Its scary though when I remember Rev. Timothy Njoyas words: most of the heroes of the 2nd liberation were just after power

[quote=freiks]I think for now we know too much about it that it cannot affect his high office bid. We should forgive him where he messed and move on with life
Its time we look forward and assume that its the struggle for democracy that failed and not the coup


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Moi should have been removed by civilians, not the army. Moi was evil personified. He took this country 80 yrs backward and should be in jail now, not enjoying tax payers hard earned money. Give credit where it is due. Raila fought for the second liberation even if he had shortcomings such as love of power. Who doesn't love power?

Interesting how RAO and Moi turned friends later on when the PM became part of Moi's regime.

"Mr Kivihya, who retired as a major, said that a day after the abortive coup, the former president ordered that all Kenya Air Force men be rounded up and taken for hanging at Kamiti Prison.

The directive was effected and servicemen and officers were locked up at Kamiti, Naivasha, King’ong’o and Shimo la Tewa prisons".

Were they hanged?? Could this be one for ICC if they were?

Every cloud has a silver lining. Without the dark ages there could have been no reformation. We would still have been lost. Tafakari.

Since they banned me from talking about Uhuru, I will talk about Raila as promised.

Maize scandal, Water scandal, Land scandal - ODM Ministers
Mass action (Result - 1000+ deaths and Internally Displaced Persons)
Coup action (Result - 1000+ deaths and Aggrieved Air Force Families)

It is all about the fear of the PM ascending to power and taking us back a hundred years. He has previously gone to bed with pink floyds, he is capable and more likely than anyone else to sell our sovereignty, is has been proven to be a born liar, not smart but good in deception (got into Kanu, made MOU which he never intended to keep etc). Such a character needs to be discussed, kept close, watched carefully cauze he can pull a first one on the 38million kenyans without an apology. It is for the same reason that we speak and accuse Satan.

If Raila were to declare that he would not be running for the Presidency in 2012 and retire like Mandela he would rise to greater fame than he would ever have achieved as President.
He would be considered a true African Statesman.
He would also be in line for a Nobel Peace Prize.
He would be invited to resolve conflicts throughout Africa for the rest of his life.

But if he takes the route of a 2012 presidential bid, he will just bring trouble to himself.
The first thing you have to be prepared for when you sit on that coveted seat is an influx of hatred from Kenyans.
For some reason, we can't stop ourselves from pointing our fingers at our leadership.
He will be hounded with protests, insults and all sorts of scandals simply because he is President.
He will be blamed for anything wrong within the country regardless of how this ill came about.

All corruption, poverty, disaster e.t.c e.t.c will be by default his own doing.
And so will it go with all who ascend to the Presidency.
Even Obama who was literally voted into the White House by the whole world soon found himself a major target for criticism.

The question is usually on how emotionally stable a leader aspiring to be President is. If you're not emotionally stable you sonn start making mistakes because the pressure simply gets to you. That's how dictators are born since they will find an avenue to release the frustration they are feeling and who better to let it out on but the same public that is causing them the distress in the first place.

If such a leader does not end up being a dictator he succumbs to health complications such as heart trouble since he's bottling up his anger within himself. He could also decide to loot national coffers to pay himself off since the public do not appreciate what he is doing.