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Rank: Hello Joined: 4/6/2011 Posts: 1 Location: Nairobi
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I do not understand why it is that most of the companies in Kenya do not view interns/interships as valuble or even necessary!!Many times you need a "connection" to get one and in the end one only gains experience in KYM(kazi ya mkono).
Comapnies shouls step up and create opportunities for those in University or even staright out of HIgh School. A company can decline to take you while you are in first year and advice you to apply in third year and upon application and acceptance into that same company,what you are "trained" to do you realise could have been done even by a high school student. It is very frustrating!!
I challenge comapnies to come up with internship programs that will nurture students and provide the necessary support to them throughout their university life. Such internships should be capable of enabling students who are to choose majors etc to make better choices based on the experience they have gained.
So many students have untapped potential and i beleive interships can be one of the major avenues for exploiting this potential.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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Very true!
I ended up getting attached a place that had zero with what I was studying for because it was the only place I had 'hook up' despite camping in different offices after the initial applications. This happened to 95% of my classmates. The rest were fortunate enough to know people where they got.
It reached a point you just go wherever because it was mandatory to go for attachment :(
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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joankarungu wrote:I do not understand why it is that most of the companies in Kenya do not view interns/interships as valuble or even necessary!!Many times you need a "connection" to get one and in the end one only gains experience in KYM(kazi ya mkono).
Comapnies shouls step up and create opportunities for those in University or even staright out of HIgh School. A company can decline to take you while you are in first year and advice you to apply in third year and upon application and acceptance into that same company,what you are "trained" to do you realise could have been done even by a high school student. It is very frustrating!!
I challenge comapnies to come up with internship programs that will nurture students and provide the necessary support to them throughout their university life. Such internships should be capable of enabling students who are to choose majors etc to make better choices based on the experience they have gained.
So many students have untapped potential and i beleive interships can be one of the major avenues for exploiting this potential. @ Joan  - Companies should do this, companies should do that Think: What's in it for the company?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Anyways who wants a moron from UON who throws stones for fun?? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:Anyways who wants a moron from UON who throws stones for fun??  Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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KulaRaha wrote:Anyways who wants a moron from UON who throws stones for fun?? @KulaRaha  ...They may break computers and steal sugar and tea leaves and toilet paper eta al... ...And by the way, wale mnapitia around the university, chungeni, kesho the morons will be at it...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Magigi wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Anyways who wants a moron from UON who throws stones for fun?? @KulaRaha ...They may break computers and steal sugar and tea leaves and toilet paper eta al... ...And by the way, wale mnapitia around the university, chungeni, kesho the morons will be at it... I will never hire a retard from UON, he may start throwing staplers if his tea has only one teaspoon of sugar instead of two... Idiots, ati interns!! Get rost!!! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2009 Posts: 170
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KulaRaha wrote:
I will never hire a retard from UON, he may start throwing staplers if his tea has only one teaspoon of sugar instead of two...
Idiots, ati interns!! Get rost!!!
This is no different from saying; I will never hire an accountant from community X because.....or I would never marry off my daughter to someone from community Y because....or people from community Z are not to be trusted because.... Shame, really, ... alas.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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what kills me is the sense of self importance and self entitlement. Like the world owes you shit.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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drake wrote:KulaRaha wrote:
I will never hire a retard from UON, he may start throwing staplers if his tea has only one teaspoon of sugar instead of two...
Idiots, ati interns!! Get rost!!!
This is no different from saying; I will never hire an accountant from community X because.....or I would never marry off my daughter to someone from community Y because....or people from community Z are not to be trusted because.... Shame, really, ... alas. Oh pls..... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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I think u r been too hard on UoN students. Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own! (UoN have a superiority complex though). Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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@Joan, please take time to edit what you write. It's called quality control. Most companies insists on it. Comapnies don't care much about quality. That's why they don't exists!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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dunkang wrote:I think u r been too hard on UoN students.
Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own!
(UoN have a superiority complex though). Forget it!!! Let them get attachment at Gor Fanatics Company!!! BK!! I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:Anyways who wants a moron from UON who throws stones for fun?? How do you determine this? he/she may be from UoN (or any other university for that matter), but not a stone-thrower....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Joan Karungu, my dear, what have you learned so far?
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2009 Posts: 170
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@JoanKarungu What's your undergraduate and area of interest? Also have you done any Professional course?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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joankarungu wrote:I do not understand why it is that most of the companies in Kenya do not view interns/interships as valuble or even necessary!!Many times you need a "connection" to get one and in the end one only gains experience in KYM(kazi ya mkono).
Comapnies shouls step up and create opportunities for those in University or even staright out of HIgh School. A company can decline to take you while you are in first year and advice you to apply in third year and upon application and acceptance into that same company,what you are "trained" to do you realise could have been done even by a high school student. It is very frustrating!!
I challenge comapnies to come up with internship programs that will nurture students and provide the necessary support to them throughout their university life. Such internships should be capable of enabling students who are to choose majors etc to make better choices based on the experience they have gained.
So many students have untapped potential and i beleive interships can be one of the major avenues for exploiting this potential. The problem is a combination of lack of understanding and security/insurance considerations. Many HR practitioners do not realise that internships are a good [and cheap] hunting ground for future employees. Imagine this: you get to try out many new employees for peanuts and you can later choose some of the for permanent jobs in the future. In some cases, insurers will reject claims where the employee who incurred the loss was an untrained intern. Thus the company has to bear the risk. Imagine getting an attachment at a high risk industry, like petroleum. The company might be willing to give you 5k pm pocket money. Then you might be required to pay you additional risk insurance of 30k for the 3 months attachment. In short, you have to pay them 15k! Many companies simply choose not to bother with internships. About being given KYM that "can be done by a high school leaver"; have you ever thought about the life of a graduate teacher? I teacher of English will be taught all the intricacies of linguistic analysis, but when they are finally posted, they end up teaching "just high school level English".... argh! That's the way of life. You are always taught to a much higher level than what you need for operational [read, "job'] purposes. If you want to apply you full knowledge of your subject, then I suggest you get a career in research. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:joankarungu wrote:I do not understand why it is that most of the companies in Kenya do not view interns/interships as valuble or even necessary!!Many times you need a "connection" to get one and in the end one only gains experience in KYM(kazi ya mkono).
Comapnies shouls step up and create opportunities for those in University or even staright out of HIgh School. A company can decline to take you while you are in first year and advice you to apply in third year and upon application and acceptance into that same company,what you are "trained" to do you realise could have been done even by a high school student. It is very frustrating!!
I challenge comapnies to come up with internship programs that will nurture students and provide the necessary support to them throughout their university life. Such internships should be capable of enabling students who are to choose majors etc to make better choices based on the experience they have gained.
So many students have untapped potential and i beleive interships can be one of the major avenues for exploiting this potential. The problem is a combination of lack of understanding and security/insurance considerations. Many HR practitioners do not realise that internships are a good [and cheap] hunting ground for future employees. Imagine this: you get to try out many new employees for peanuts and you can later choose some of the for permanent jobs in the future. In some cases, insurers will reject claims where the employee who incurred the loss was an untrained intern. Thus the company has to bear the risk. Imagine getting an attachment at a high risk industry, like petroleum. The company might be willing to give you 5k pm pocket money. Then you might be required to pay you additional risk insurance of 30k for the 3 months attachment. In short, you have to pay them 15k! Many companies simply choose not to bother with internships. About being given KYM that "can be done by a high school leaver"; have you ever thought about the life of a graduate teacher? I teacher of English will be taught all the intricacies of linguistic analysis, but when they are finally posted, they end up teaching "just high school level English".... argh! That's the way of life. You are always taught to a much higher level than what you need for operational [read, "job'] purposes. If you want to apply you full knowledge of your subject, then I suggest you get a career in research. Mukiha, kudos for your level headed response ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Kudos Mukiha. Most of the replies above are no different from what the UoN students do. I think a number of you may have passed through the institution and a lot of what happens is purely due to mob psychology. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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