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bwenyenye wrote:I heard the usual cliche... ' Let us pay from the next election coz we had already budgetted for our money."
Hii watu ni Shenji kabisa. Kwani me and you pay taxes because we do not budget for our money ?
MARIPE! kwanza with penalties and interest kama wengine! The tax guys are not hearing of this. Especially If the payments are to be back dated to last year August, then the areas would come to about $10,000 per MP! Bloody crazy Bring it on. Don't go through life, grow through it!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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innairobi wrote:Exit Solomonic rulings. Enter Solo-moronic rulings. I like this sana......From Solomon to Solo-moron. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Njung'e wrote:innairobi wrote:Exit Solomonic rulings. Enter Solo-moronic rulings. I like this sana......From Solomon to Solo-moron. Whoever is telling the MPs not to pay their due taxes is doing them a great diservice. They may hold on( which I highly doubt) for as long as they are in Bunge. When they get out ( maybe later this year) Njiraini will come for them individualy and with higher penalties and interest and their girlfreinds' matresses will auctioned in the noon day sun. Hapana cheaza na sheria... I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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Hahaa, I like it. The way things are going, this thing will be decided by the supreme court and MP's should be very fearful with Mutunga in there and the fact that the judiciary has already asked KRA to help them comply meaning that the judiciary is ready to pay. If the Judges pay, kwisha maneno MP's will have to pay because even if they take their grievances to court, the case will be decided by Judges who are already paying taxes.
Njiraini does not appear to be sending just threats. He has asked any MP who has a problem to go to the supreme court meaning that KRA can only be stopped by the supreme court.
My only fear is that this tax will be paid from CDF.
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tassia wrote:Hahaa, I like it. The way things are going, this thing will be decided by the supreme court and MP's should be very fearful with Mutunga in there and the fact that the judiciary has already asked KRA to help them comply meaning that the judiciary is ready to pay. If the Judges pay, kwisha maneno MP's will have to pay because even if they take their grievances to court, the case will be decided by Judges who are already paying taxes.
Njiraini does not appear to be sending just threats. He has asked any MP who has a problem to go to the supreme court meaning that KRA can only be stopped by the supreme court.
My only fear is that this tax will be paid from CDF. My thots exactly MPs also need to know that this will be a personal battle. When the auctioneers come calling, it will be every man for himself Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Robinhood wrote:tassia wrote:Hahaa, I like it. The way things are going, this thing will be decided by the supreme court and MP's should be very fearful with Mutunga in there and the fact that the judiciary has already asked KRA to help them comply meaning that the judiciary is ready to pay. If the Judges pay, kwisha maneno MP's will have to pay because even if they take their grievances to court, the case will be decided by Judges who are already paying taxes.
Njiraini does not appear to be sending just threats. He has asked any MP who has a problem to go to the supreme court meaning that KRA can only be stopped by the supreme court.
My only fear is that this tax will be paid from CDF. My thots exactly MPs also need to know that this will be a personal battle. When the auctioneers come calling, it will be every man for himself @robin.. how do I get that job, to action them that is? Nitaenjoy kabisa. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 1,491 Location: Nairobi
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These mpigs are still living in the past not knowing that the new constitution is in place wacha walipe ushuru. Heard on KTN that if mpigs,commisioners and judiciary pay the tax it amounts to 1 billion na Wako pia alipe ushuru hata kama anaenda home. Former CJ pia asiwachwe Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 420 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/9/2009 Posts: 311
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Resistance is futile. Only the courts can save them. Because more than 50% are guaranteed to be voted out in 2012, it will even be more painful when KRA comes after them one by one. That mortgage they strained to pay for will be money down the drain because of the tax+penalties. Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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bwenyenye wrote:
Whoever is telling the MPs not to pay their due taxes is doing them a great diservice. They may hold on( which I highly doubt) for as long as they are in Bunge. When they get out ( maybe later this year) Njiraini will come for them individualy and with higher penalties and interest and their girlfreinds' matresses will auctioned in the noon day sun.
Hapana cheaza na sheria...
That is very true. The adage that "only two things in life are certain: death and taxes" is coming true in Kenya. Now that the MPs have been assessed for tax, there is no escaping. Even after death, KRA will be the first in line to lay claim on their estates... and the law give KRA first priority, before all wives, girlfriends and children! At that time, there will be no one to protect them. It is better to simply negotiate repayment terms. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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kingfisher wrote:Robinhood wrote:tassia wrote:Hahaa, I like it. The way things are going, this thing will be decided by the supreme court and MP's should be very fearful with Mutunga in there and the fact that the judiciary has already asked KRA to help them comply meaning that the judiciary is ready to pay. If the Judges pay, kwisha maneno MP's will have to pay because even if they take their grievances to court, the case will be decided by Judges who are already paying taxes.
Njiraini does not appear to be sending just threats. He has asked any MP who has a problem to go to the supreme court meaning that KRA can only be stopped by the supreme court.
My only fear is that this tax will be paid from CDF. My thots exactly MPs also need to know that this will be a personal battle. When the auctioneers come calling, it will be every man for himself @robin.. how do I get that job, to action them that is? Nitaenjoy kabisa. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 15 Location: Papa Kule
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and who is MPig Mbadi to threaten this commission of a compromised house should K.R.A tax their pay!!!!ASI Nionyeshe Njia Zako.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2009 Posts: 2,863
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Hata kibaki alipe Tax from september last year. IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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For those guys who understand the Public Service rules, Does the Speaker of the house have anything to do with the payment of salaries i.e does he verify that the figures are correct before the fellows are paid or he just sees the amount in his account. If the latter is the case, basi, June salary inafaa ifike less Taxes halafu we discuss from there.. about arreas I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/19/2010 Posts: 237 Location: Republic of Graham & Doddsville
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M.Major wrote:and who is MPig Mbadi to threaten this commission of a compromised house should K.R.A tax their pay!!!!ASI Actually l felt he was more so threatening kenyans rather than KRA, i.e, if we(kenyans) persist to push mpigs on this issue then "tutaona cha mtema kuni" in the form of a compromised bunge!!! Ngai... I felt like grabbing him "mashati"... yank him thru my TV screen give him a right, left hook & then a right uppercut to KO him & hence shut him up!!! NKT juu BK... We Will Either Find a Way or Create One - HANNIBAL
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/13/2010 Posts: 869 Location: Nairobi
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The speaker does not feel sufficiently philanthropic... ....above all, to stand.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2008 Posts: 394
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I want the MPs to pay tax, they should have done this from last year. All am asking is, why now? The time when we are in a critical stage of implementing the new constitution. Is there a possibility that this is a tact to destruct us from the really issues? Think about it Kenyans Doors of opportunity don't just open , they have to be unlocked & it's up to you to turn the knob.
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KenSaf wrote:I want the MPs to pay tax, they should have done this from last year. All am asking is, why now? The time when we are in a critical stage of implementing the new constitution. Is there a possibility that this is a tact to destruct us from the really issues? Think about it Kenyans @Kensaf.....Get real my friend, there is nothing like scuttling this process. So what if they pay does it mean it will be scuttled. Am seeing quite a chunk of moderate mps paying this thing, they want to retain their seats and only way is PAY TAXES for the electorate to get you there. A good tool campaign next year will be 'the incumbet refused to pay taxes do you want to retain him' and the answer will be 'AENDE'. For those who want to be governors and so forth will pay the taxes, those who want the last nail in the coffin let them refuse to pay Life is an endless adventure
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Its very clear who is right and who is Making noise.
KRA has a discretion to demand for payment of taxes whenever it wishes to do so. Infact, they can demand for tax 10 Years from the date the payment ought to have been made. As such, the question of "why now" should not arise.
Speaker's Solomonic or Whatever judgements he may have are NOT law. In fact he is in the same boat with his flock of MP's. He should Pay taxes as well.
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