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Kenol Kobil HY 2011 - Profit Advice
stocksmaster
#111 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:09:45 PM
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Impunity wrote:
@the deal,we are in bear until I dont know when!
Banks bettered their results in excess of 80% and they still trade below their pre-cums,what is KK with her 70%?


It will be interesting to see wether the banks will maintain this stellar Q1 results by Q3....

Any person buying currently any share should be ready to hold for the next 18 months.

Happy hunting.
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mwekez@ji
#112 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:30:28 PM
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stocksmaster wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
erifloss wrote:
trizher wrote:

This is unreal....why put the announcement 1 and a half moons away?........any ideas?

I think it might be coz they are preparing to offer shares under ESOP soon as they had earlier announced and don't want an early drop in price if or when they release a timetable for the same due to dilution.


Most ESOP have a lock in period of at least 3 years. KK ESOP is not likely to be an excemption to that lock in. In that case, the current share price will not be affected directly by the ESOP as the ESOP share be available for trading after the lock period

They'll be getting a share of the dividends


The dividend cake will have to be shared by many company owners. EPS & PE ratios will be affected. Definitely there will be dilution. At least if they create a lock in period, the ESOP shares will not drive down the share price in the medium term. If they dont create a good lock in period, this stock is doomed


The Dilutional Effect on the issue of 140M ESOP shares is: 140M/1472M x 100% = 9.5%
Half year 2011 vs Half Year 2010 (Net Profit) will be > 50%.

If my shareholding is to be diluted at 9.5% so that employees are motivated to give me a return on my investment of > 50%, thats makes investment sense!! Am gaining > 40% in EPS, so how can the share be doomed? For the year 2011,this company if it maintains the momentum will be posting an EPS of between Ksh 2 - Ksh 2.2 and with its generous dividend policy, the total dividends for 2011 should be approximately between Ksh 0.75 - Ksh 1.00.

As i posted earlier, any price below Ksh 15 for this share is a steal.

My exit target for my sizeable KK holding is a price of Ksh 20 in March 2013 (100% capital gain in 20 months).

Happy hunting.


@stocksmaster, the profit growth of over 50% is great. If KK is able to maintain such growth it will be a very good thing. However, your advice on the buying price of KK is too high. If I get a buyer at such a price, I will happily sell all my remaining portion of KK. This share is currently experiencing a struggle to move past 10.50. Also do not brush off the 9.5% dilution as insignificant, time will tell that it is significant
erifloss
#113 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 7:41:59 AM
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@stockmaster, i'm with 2012 on this. Most of the play here is speculative & most of them are waiting for when the actual numbers will be out & that's when they'll dump this share. Though for a long term guy like you, you are better off.
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nahdy
#114 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 9:31:10 AM
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Aguytrying
#115 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 9:36:15 AM
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Today im on the front row seat, where's my popcorn?
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#116 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 10:00:15 AM
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nahdy wrote:
http://www.kenolkobil.com/index.php/component/content/article/58/254

KCB LOAR!!
the deal
#117 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 10:39:23 AM
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How does one tell if people buying are speculators or investors? Are they labelled???...Lmao
Aguytrying
#118 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 10:53:14 AM
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the deal wrote:
How does one tell if people buying are speculators or investors? Are they labelled???...Lmao


was wondering the same thing, there are so many reasons to sell and so many kinds of traders to buy and sell. its hard to tell
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mwenza
#119 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 11:04:29 AM
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the deal wrote:
How does one tell if people buying are speculators or investors? Are they labelled???...Lmao




.....Very simple. When a person sees, from the sidelines, a share rallying......Its always convenient to conclude that the rally is as a result of "speculators" even when the reasons for the rally are in black and white.

@deal......am sure you know how painful it is to miss the bus.
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2012
#120 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 11:20:06 AM
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the deal wrote:
How does one tell if people buying are speculators or investors? Are they labelled???...Lmao


As I'd said earlier speculators react and investors are proactive. I'm not saying that all the people buying now are speculators but majority are and once results are announced they'll jump out before book closure. I used to do it with my friends so I would know. If you're a proper investor then you've done your research and are not bothered when the share price falls neither will you keep following the daily performance religiously by the minute while chewing your nails.

BBI will solve it
:)
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