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Kenol Kobil HY 2011 - Profit Advice
Cde Monomotapa
#81 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:01:52 AM
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the deal wrote:
Thats what good companies do..they release official profits advice.

Can't blame Kenyans..we'd rather profit warnings. LMAO!!
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#82 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:41:54 AM
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ESOP dilution is 9% over 3 years [plus these are Options meaning the allotees will have to pay for them so lessening the 'effects' of the dilution] but I expect KK's profits [judging from history & confidence] to be much better over the 3 year period
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#83 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:02:42 AM
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CHECK THIS OUT 1h 2011 EPS will be more than for FY 2010 http://contrarianinvesti...011-earnings-profit.html
Impunity
#84 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:26:04 PM
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Is this share expected to touch a low of below 10 just before July 27th?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

jerry
#85 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:01:12 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Is this share expected to touch a low of below 10 just before July 27th?

=>Did you sell too early? We are looking for 12/= plus.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
Impunity
#86 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:07:23 PM
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@jerry bidded 11, not'yet picked!And not going below.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Aguytrying
#87 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:16:36 PM
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jerry wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Is this share expected to touch a low of below 10 just before July 27th?

=>Did you sell too early? We are looking for 12/= plus.

yes we are. Although 12.40 for me to be exact.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
youcan'tstopusnow
#88 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:41:47 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
erifloss wrote:
trizher wrote:

This is unreal....why put the announcement 1 and a half moons away?........any ideas?

I think it might be coz they are preparing to offer shares under ESOP soon as they had earlier announced and don't want an early drop in price if or when they release a timetable for the same due to dilution.


Most ESOP have a lock in period of at least 3 years. KK ESOP is not likely to be an excemption to that lock in. In that case, the current share price will not be affected directly by the ESOP as the ESOP share be available for trading after the lock period

They'll be getting a share of the dividends
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
jerry
#89 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:31:48 PM
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Impunity wrote:
@jerry bidded 11, not'yet picked!And not going below.

@Impunity. If it doesn't touch 11/= tomorrow I'll revise my target price.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
mwekez@ji
#90 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:59:00 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
erifloss wrote:
trizher wrote:

This is unreal....why put the announcement 1 and a half moons away?........any ideas?

I think it might be coz they are preparing to offer shares under ESOP soon as they had earlier announced and don't want an early drop in price if or when they release a timetable for the same due to dilution.


Most ESOP have a lock in period of at least 3 years. KK ESOP is not likely to be an excemption to that lock in. In that case, the current share price will not be affected directly by the ESOP as the ESOP share be available for trading after the lock period

They'll be getting a share of the dividends


The dividend cake will have to be shared by many company owners. EPS & PE ratios will be affected. Definitely there will be dilution. At least if they create a lock in period, the ESOP shares will not drive down the share price in the medium term. If they dont create a good lock in period, this stock is doomed
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