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Uhuru Kenyatta the Man to Beat Come 2012
njugunajohn
#51 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 5:46:11 PM
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vinii wrote:
kyt wrote:
raila is the man

i dont agree with 'raira' on many occassions, but i think at the moment he is ahead as regards the next erections

Look at Mukiha's post and the answer I have given him and tell me what makes you think that Raila is ahead.
'user'
#52 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 5:50:17 PM
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I have never been past nakuru but i would want a RaiRa presidency.with the new constitution to check him we will be better off than being led by a hague fugitive.
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
Kenyan Kop
#53 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 5:52:42 PM
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The last time I checked Uhuru Kenyatta's budget set aside billions of shillings for irrigation. If fully implemented, Kenya's food security will be assured. This forward thinking (not Raila's knee-jerk reaction) is courtesy of one Uhuru Kenyatta. Please when you decide to talk about drought, care to mention interventions put in place. Otherwise your pedestrian arguments wont wash.
Oh and by the way, since when did you become a prefect to decide what and when to post?
'user'
#54 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57:02 PM
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U talk of budget .budget is just a dream.13 out of 14 votes in last year budget cannot be accounted 4
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
Kenyan Kop
#55 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:07:44 PM
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@User its Uhuru Kenyatta's job to prepare budget and allocate money as per ministries expenditure plan. Raila will then decide to buy tissue from the money allocated to the PM office. Ama you want Uhuru to also buy the tissue for Raila?
Burning Spear
#56 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:10:08 PM
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atleast people have started being objective in their postings rather than bashing a thread and owner just because of difference in political opinions.
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
simonkabz
#57 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:13:34 PM
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Its aweful for guys not to see the good things UK n Baks have done. With all their failings (and they are many), I still rate them highly. Honestly, UK has performed surprisingly well than many of us would have imagined, including the ever apathetic n cynical kularaha. Anyway, regarding the elections, if the entire current lot will be in the ballot nxt year, I see a RAO/UK or a RAO/PK runoff. The winner? No longer certain. But I doubt there will be any major PEV.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
njugunajohn
#58 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:13:44 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
@njugus
njugunajohn wrote:
[quote=simonkabz]@njugush, clarity of expression noted, well done. But I beg to differ. Ruto's game remains clouded in mystery. The Hague cloud hangs low over Kenya. Economic hurdles continue to be blamed on the son of Jomo, with a poor dvt record in Gatundu i.e. wavering support in the homeground. Over the wkd, I saw a pig n 2 ex-pigs defect to OTM (Linturi, Maoka, Mbugua). Kenneth is coming soon, with a bang......Tough ride I say.


These guys will do that which will ensure they land back in parliament. It doesn't matter in which party they will end up. All that matters to them is that they return to parliament. Let me remind you that you can not switch parties less than 6 months to a election. so any alliance not in force by this time, membership to parties and all is all but futile. Mbugua lost his nomination that way. Also remember there is nothing like alliance of parties unless those parties are corporate members of an umbrella party. I am yet to see this G7 of yours achieve that.

Their paltry dozen votes could never make a difference in an election. How many constituents can these three people even wield.
It is too meager to necessitate a discussion from civil individuals such as the two of us. Again remember the issue of scoring at least 25% from at least 50% of all the counties... that where there meager constituents count.

Mbugua actually risks loosing his seat if he were to go against the Kikuyu grain.
Those inclined to point to the son of Jomo as the mastermind of the economic hurdles that the country faces are actually misinformed.
I cite the 'Economic report on Africa 2011' by the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa as my point of reference.
The document on page 32 outlines what it calls the 'four crises' as Kenyas Economic hurdles. These are post-election violence,
food, energy and drought.
Contrary to popular belief the Commission actually says that Kenya overcame these and that the country is actually doing better than in 2008.
Ok, I will not even try to dwell on PEV and energy, but pray, this drought and hunger we see every time on our media, is it imagined or a creation of the media to undermine UK. Or may be you are writing from the Mars. MK himself declared drought as a natural disaster the other day. Wewe iko kenya gani papa njugus?

Lastly, if you are campaigning for UK, kindly use another forum. Right now we are interested in who will be our CJ, Deputy CJ, DPP, judges of all courts, Police chief, etc, etc. Its called constitutional implementation. Next year we shall come to your point, assuming that UK will be contesting. Adios.

Your lengthy answer is just making me tired.
It is so full of holes and I'm itching to point them out.

1) you can not switch parties less than 6 months
In nursery we counted 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14
We have fourteen months to go till August 2012.
14-6 = 8
therefore Mbugua and his lot have 8 months to jump around from party to party.
2) there is nothing like alliance of parties unless those parties are corporate members of an umbrella party. I am yet to see this G7 of yours achieve that
Just wait and you will see the umbrella party that will be formed. Do you actually believe that the G7 don't have smart enough big-shot lawyers to direct them on constitutional matters affecting formation of parties?
3) the issue of scoring at least 25% from at least 50% of all the counties... that where there meager constituents count
This is speaking about counties and not constituencies. These 4 constituencies will never make a difference even if they were to import voters. 25% is too small a margin for you to base your argument on it. 50% is already a done deal. Rift valley, central, coast and eastern have taken care of that.
4) Ok, I will not even try to dwell on PEV and energy, but pray, this drought and hunger we see every time on our media, is it imagined or a creation of the media to undermine UK. Or may be you are writing from the Mars. MK himself declared drought as a natural disaster the other day. Wewe iko kenya gani papa njugus?
Did you read what I wrote or did you just assume what I was saying.
I categorically asked whether it was Uhuru who had caused drought and lack of food as someone else had suggested. Then economic again, economic growth did not stop occurring because of drought and lack of food.
These problems are not unique to Kenya and they are happening throughout the world. to squarely lay the blame for these on Uhuru is just partisan politics.
5) Right now we are interested in who will be our CJ, Deputy CJ, DPP, judges of all courts, Police chief, etc,
Personally I have nothing against Tobiko and the rest. Kenya could choose whoever it deems fit to sit in these offices but since I'm not a criminal I have nothing to do with the Judiciary. As long as they swear in my candidate of choice I have no beef against them.

Hasta la vista
njugunajohn
#59 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:16:14 PM
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kyt wrote:
raila is the man

Why? And why not Uhuru?
njugunajohn
#60 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:19:27 PM
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Burning Spear wrote:
atleast people have started being objective in their postings rather than bashing a thread and owner just because of difference in political opinions.

That is a good observation but also give your view.
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