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SAFARICOM FY 2011 Results Announcement LIVE STREAMING
Jamani
#51 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:52:10 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
To those chiding VVS, I doubt he has any shares in Airtel


No he has free ones somewhere there,
mlennyma
#52 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:58:42 PM
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@chupi,safcom didnt con you,all you did was your free will decision,am sure on data safcom will beat all others including ak hands down.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#53 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:21:17 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
News just in...rene mezza has fainted.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
@mlennyma - Any news on @vvs? What is his status?
Niko na Rene d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

[Anyway, like someone said... as a consumer what Safaricom makes matters little to me as long as I get cheaper calls!

Safaricom needs to stop lying or frightening us about the KES 26bn 'drop' in revenue. I doubt that since the minutes usage has JUMPED & will continue rising!

As an investor, I am wary of investing in Safaricom at 4/-, and my reasons have not changed...

1) Much lower margins on voice in 2011-12
2) Data will grow since there is NO credible competitor. Margins will drop but revenue will jump huge!
3) M-Pesa will grow [Zap, Orange, etc are not the same]

Bottomline (as investor): An expensive PE for me.
Bottomline (as customer): Cheaper calls/data for me

Safaricom will not collapse [I never said that, show me...] but its profits will drop further in 2011-12 unless they can really ramp up data & M-Pesa.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#54 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:23:30 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
To those chiding VVS, I doubt he has any shares in Airtel
LOL... Sina Airtel!!! You know which firms I have shares in... I am pretty open about that!

So safaricom has been lying to us... ati, revenues will drop by 26bn coz rates went from 8/- to 3/-... the minutes used have compensated just as Airtel said they would!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
digitek1
#55 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:38:47 PM
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I know bw. njoroge at cck is among the guests hapo chini and will soon enforce. ..
can't wait for future drop in interconnect rates...
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
mwanahisa
#56 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:55:27 PM
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Safaricom results were commendable in that they did not fall as much as might have been expected or had been feared. I am very impressed by the increase in revenue but equally distressed by the rise in costs/expenses.

In my forecast spreadsheet I had an EPS of 0.33 based on assumption that H2 earnings would be 30% less than H1 as a consequence of the price wars. Interestingly, this was bang on target.
MaichBlack
#57 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:03:03 PM
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Hunderwear wrote:
This serves to tell you how much safaricon conned us.So far Airtel are my hero.Now with the new Tech offcer expect 3G soon and safcon data monopoly wil juz evaporate

Airtel cannot survive this way for long. You can't run a loss making enterprise perpetually!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
VituVingiSana
#58 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:03:17 PM
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So a 12x PER is quite high in my books when I can buy banks with lower PERs...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#59 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:06:24 PM
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I have a BUY recommendation on Safaricom.
Jus Blazin
#60 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:14:19 PM
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Been waiting for a one adyjenson a.k.a airtel mutua to comment.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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