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Samuel wanjiru a sick man
murenj
#1 Posted : Monday, January 03, 2011 9:21:06 PM
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Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy?
simonkabz
#2 Posted : Monday, January 03, 2011 9:50:26 PM
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I gather the small man is quite arrogant. However, at 23 n a poor background, wouldnt blame him much. He is slowly turning into a real man...the hard way!
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vinii
#3 Posted : Monday, January 03, 2011 9:53:50 PM
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murenj wrote:
Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy?

@murenj, pse provide more details.
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murenj
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:05:28 PM
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Anabolic steroids are usualy abused by athletes to improve performance. the following is a copy and paste job from 'wikipedia'Body composition and strength improvements
A review spanning more than three decades of experimental studies in men found that body weight may increase by 2–5 kg as a result of short term (<10 weeks) AAS use, which may be attributed mainly to an increase of lean mass. Animal studies also found that fat mass was reduced, but most studies in humans failed to elucidate significant fat mass decrements. The effects on lean body mass have been shown to be dose dependent. Both muscle hypertrophy and the formation of new muscle fibers have been observed. The hydration of lean mass remains unaffected by AAS use, although small increments of blood volume cannot be ruled out.[31]
The upper region of the body (thorax, neck, shoulders and upper arm) seems to be more susceptible for AAS than other body regions because of predominance of androgen receptors in the upper body. The largest difference in muscle fibre size between AAS users and non-users was observed in type I muscle fibres of the vastus lateralis and the trapezius muscle as a result of long-term AAS self-administration. After drug withdrawal the effects fade away slowly, but may persist for more than 6–12 weeks after cessation of AAS use.[31]
The same review observed strength improvements in the range of 5-20% of baseline strength, largely depending on the drugs and dose used as well as the administration period. Overall, the exercise where the most significant improvements were observed was the bench press.[32] For almost two decades it was assumed that AAS only exerted significant effects in experienced strength athletes, particularly based on the studies of Hervey and coworkers.[33][34] In 1996 a randomized controlled trial published in the New England Journal of Medicine demonstrated however that even in novice athletes a 10-week strength training program accompanied by testosterone enanthate at 600 mg/week may improve strength more than training alone does.[32][35] The same study found that dose was sufficient to significantly improve lean muscle mass relative to placebo even in subjects that did not exercise at all.[35] A 2001 study by the same first author, showed that the anabolic effects of testosterone enanthate were highly dose dependent.[31][36]
Adverse effects
Psychiatric effects
A 2005 review in CNS Drugs determined that "significant psychiatric symptoms including aggression and violence, mania, and less frequently psychosis and suicide have been associated with steroidabuse.
Aggression and hypomania
From the mid-1980s onwards the popular press has been reporting "roid rage" as a side effect of AAS (the term being a play on the more established phenomenon of road rage).[66]
A 2005 review determined that some, but not all, randomized controlled studies have found that anabolic steroid use correlates with hypomania and increased aggressiveness, but pointed out that attempts to determine whether AAS use triggers violent behaviour have failed, primarily because of high rates of non-participation.[67] A 2008 study on a nationally representative sample of young adult males in the United States found an association between lifetime and past-year self-reported anabolic-androgenic steroid use and involvement in violent acts. Compared with individuals who did not use steroids, young adult males who used anabolic-androgenic steroids reported greater involvement in violent behaviors even after controlling for the effects of key demographic variables, previous violent behavior, and polydrug use.[68] A 1996 review examining the blind studies available at that time also found that these had demonstrated a link between aggression and steroid use, but pointed out that with estimates of over one million past or current steroid users in the United States at that time, an extremely small percentage of those using steroids appear to have experienced mental disturbance severe enough to result in clinical treatments or medical case reports.[69


Impunity
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:09:07 PM
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And now wife files for divorce, characteristic Central Kenya women;No surprise.
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McReggae
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:15:07 PM
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murenj wrote:
Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy?


what could be the manifestation bwana murenj!!!!
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murenj
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:20:44 PM
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McReggae wrote:
murenj wrote:
Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy?


what could be the manifestation bwana murenj!!!!

INCREASED AGRESSION.........CHASING PEOPLE AROUND WITH GUNS IN THE DEAD OF THE NIGHT......APPEARS TO HAVE GOTTEN INTO THIS HABIT. MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY WIFE IS QUITINGShame on you
Intelligentsia
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:28:12 PM
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wee wacha.. u r merely trying to bamboozle us with high-sounding medical terms. Shame on you
hiyo ni pure speculation - neither the dope tests at the Beijing Olympics nor those of subsequent races have ever turned positive for this dude.

Ergo,move this thread to the 'POLITICS' section!
kizee1
#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:04:41 PM
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to add on to wat inteligentsia said

A 1996 review examining the blind studies available at that time also found that these had demonstrated a link between aggression and steroid use, but pointed out that with estimates of over one million past or current steroid users in the United States at that time, an extremely small percentage of those using steroids appear to have experienced mental disturbance severe enough to result in clinical treatments or medical case reports.[69



Ms Mkenya
#10 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:53:43 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
wee wacha.. u r merely trying to bamboozle us with high-sounding medical terms. Shame on you
hiyo ni pure speculation - neither the dope tests at the Beijing Olympics nor those of subsequent races have ever turned positive for this dude.


@Intelligentia, u have hit the nail on th head. Temporal lobe epilepsy is so far fetched.
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thuks
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:14:34 PM
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Impunity wrote:
And now wife files for divorce, characteristic Central Kenya women;No surprise.


nothing typical about divorce in central kenya, i would not wish any sister of mine waiting for a gun-totting husband of hers!
I care!
murenj
#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:03:21 AM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
wee wacha.. u r merely trying to bamboozle us with high-sounding medical terms. Shame on you
hiyo ni pure speculation - neither the dope tests at the Beijing Olympics nor those of subsequent races have ever turned positive for this dude.


@Intelligentia, u have hit the nail on th head. Temporal lobe epilepsy is so far fetched.

yes temporal lobe epilepsy is a bit far fetched. however some subjects have experience confusion after a convulsion, and may commit criminal acts in that state
Pastor M
#13 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 1:11:45 PM
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murenj wrote:
Anabolic steroids are usualy abused by athletes to improve performance. the following is a copy and paste job from 'wikipedia'Body composition and strength improvements
A review spanning more than three decades of experimental studies in men found that body weight may increase by 2–5 kg as a result of short term (<10 weeks) AAS use, which may be attributed mainly to an increase of lean mass. Animal studies also found that fat mass was reduced, but most studies in humans failed to elucidate significant fat mass decrements. The effects on lean body mass have been shown to be dose dependent. Both muscle hypertrophy and the formation of new muscle fibers have been observed. The hydration of lean mass remains unaffected by AAS use, although small increments of blood volume cannot be ruled out.[31]
The upper region of the body (thorax, neck, shoulders and upper arm) seems to be more susceptible for AAS than other body regions because of predominance of androgen receptors in the upper body. The largest difference in muscle fibre size between AAS users and non-users was observed in type I muscle fibres of the vastus lateralis and the trapezius muscle as a result of long-term AAS self-administration. After drug withdrawal the effects fade away slowly, but may persist for more than 6–12 weeks after cessation of AAS use.[31]
The same review observed strength improvements in the range of 5-20% of baseline strength, largely depending on the drugs and dose used as well as the administration period. Overall, the exercise where the most significant improvements were observed was the bench press.[32] For almost two decades it was assumed that AAS only exerted significant effects in experienced strength athletes, particularly based on the studies of Hervey and coworkers.[33][34] In 1996 a randomized controlled trial published in the New England Journal of Medicine demonstrated however that even in novice athletes a 10-week strength training program accompanied by testosterone enanthate at 600 mg/week may improve strength more than training alone does.[32][35] The same study found that dose was sufficient to significantly improve lean muscle mass relative to placebo even in subjects that did not exercise at all.[35] A 2001 study by the same first author, showed that the anabolic effects of testosterone enanthate were highly dose dependent.[31][36]
Adverse effects
Psychiatric effects
A 2005 review in CNS Drugs determined that "significant psychiatric symptoms including aggression and violence, mania, and less frequently psychosis and suicide have been associated with steroidabuse.
Aggression and hypomania
From the mid-1980s onwards the popular press has been reporting "roid rage" as a side effect of AAS (the term being a play on the more established phenomenon of road rage).[66]
A 2005 review determined that some, but not all, randomized controlled studies have found that anabolic steroid use correlates with hypomania and increased aggressiveness, but pointed out that attempts to determine whether AAS use triggers violent behaviour have failed, primarily because of high rates of non-participation.[67] A 2008 study on a nationally representative sample of young adult males in the United States found an association between lifetime and past-year self-reported anabolic-androgenic steroid use and involvement in violent acts. Compared with individuals who did not use steroids, young adult males who used anabolic-androgenic steroids reported greater involvement in violent behaviors even after controlling for the effects of key demographic variables, previous violent behavior, and polydrug use.[68] A 1996 review examining the blind studies available at that time also found that these had demonstrated a link between aggression and steroid use, but pointed out that with estimates of over one million past or current steroid users in the United States at that time, an extremely small percentage of those using steroids appear to have experienced mental disturbance severe enough to result in clinical treatments or medical case reports.[69



Pastor M
#14 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 1:15:32 PM
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His death...Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy? Anabolic steroids are usualy abused by athletes to improve performance. the following is a copy and paste job from 'wikipedia'Body composition and strength improvements one of its effect is A 2005 review in CNS Drugs determined that "significant psychiatric symptoms including aggression and violence, mania,high libido and less frequently psychosis and suicide have been associated with steroidabuse.
Aggression and hypomania
Inuendo
#15 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 1:32:39 PM
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His death COULD have been caused by many factors other than all these, why speculate? Why not wait for the Postmortem report.Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
Quoting a full article on various conditions doesn't make you right!Everyone nowadays can Google up a "condition" and say "it could have been...."

Sad story....................RIP Samuel Wanjiru!
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msupious financially
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:36:37 PM
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murenj wrote:
Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy?



Murenj, u posted this in January!!!!!! Did u see his death coming? Shocking
Euge
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:15:52 PM
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msupious financially wrote:
murenj wrote:
Could this be a manifestation of anabolic steroids or temporal lobe epilepsy?



Murenj, u posted this in January!!!!!! Did u see his death coming? Shocking


Murenj you beat prophet Awuor at what he knows/does best. You could make a few more coins by offering him consultancy services.Applause
Lord, thank you!
murenj
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:15:37 AM
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very sad indeed........the waste............
PONDI
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:09:27 PM
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if murenj lived in kisii-land or coast... weka tyre ... mchawi
FundamentAli
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:03:00 PM
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Will WADA be around during his post-mortem?
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