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and the april inflation rate is....
kizee1
#1 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 11:42:53 AM
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ladies and gents 12.05, up from 9.19...tumekufa
'user'
#2 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 11:45:12 AM
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Kwisa.
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
mkonomtupu
#3 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 11:49:03 AM
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OMG!!! the good news is that all available climate models suggest further weakening of the La Niña over the coming months,so things will be good towards the end year for the food prices
kizee1
#4 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 12:18:01 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
OMG!!! the good news is that all available climate models suggest further weakening of the La Niña over the coming months,so things will be good towards the end year for the food prices

will we be alive that long? lol
kyt
#5 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 1:57:03 PM
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In the old formulae inflation would have reached 50% and putting in mind that the CBK benchmark is 5% ha!
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kizee1
#6 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 2:31:33 PM
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kyt wrote:
In the old formulae inflation would have reached 50% and putting in mind that the CBK benchmark is 5% ha!



CBR is actually at 6...i think mpc will do some drastic stuff maybe a 100 bpts hike...
StatMeister
#7 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 3:48:01 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
kyt wrote:
In the old formulae inflation would have reached 50% and putting in mind that the CBK benchmark is 5% ha!



CBR is actually at 6...i think mpc will do some drastic stuff maybe a 100 bpts hike...


MPC must be out of ideas, changing interest rates or mopping up circulation won't reduce fuel prices
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Liv
#8 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:02:36 PM
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CBK Governor and his team are failing this country.
This is not the first time Oil prices are that high. The crude oil price was one time circa $150 per bbl and inflation then was contained.

Look at Europe, Australia, Canada, and other countries. When the oil price go up they interpret that to mean the weakening of the dollar against their currencies. Their currencies appreciate as the oil prices go up. So their economies are NOT significantly affected by the rise of oil prices.

This was the same strategy that was being used by CBK in 2004-2007 (I guess Prof Ndungu was not there then) and we know at one time the USD was trading at Ksh 60. Now USD / Kshs rate is 85.

This change of strategy is ruining the economy and the country. There is nothing as dangerous to economic stability as Inflation. Ask Ben Benernke, or Jean-Claude Trichetthe ECB President. Their biggest concern is inflation. Someone needs to bring this animal (inflation) down... otherwise it will consume everything.

WE NEED CHANGE AT THE CENTRAL BANK. Either change of the strategy or Change the people.
Is anyone listening?
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#9 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:07:59 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
tumekufa


'user' wrote:
Kwisa.


smile



BBI will solve it
:)
hisah
#10 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:10:04 PM
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@Kizee1 - MPC has nowhere to run nor hide. If they hike by 100bps the GDP estimate model will crumble, if they don't do anything, they're still cooked! And what will that do to gubberment spending/funding with Hague circus, constitution reform funds and definitely food imports plus oil and an upcoming election... I leave that to your imagination.

And those gubberment bonds held by the not so smart banks will become paper or is it losses in their books. What happens to the banks lending rate and their lending spree... We'll see this tape by Q3.

Inflation spikes to 12.05% still breaches my estimate of 11%, but in line with my double digit expectation. I'm doing poorly in my math. No wonder my prof failed me for being too poor in econs... smilePray Brick wall

On a brighter note, maybe my poor econs would be appreciated by MPC or gubberment since their poor track is brilliance? I'm thinking of converting my little Kshs savings into oranges or potatoes. They're more valuable anyway...

http://af.reuters.com/ar...DE73S0MR20110429?sp=true
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#11 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:24:04 PM
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StatMeister wrote:

MPC must be out of ideas, changing interest rates or mopping up circulation won't reduce fuel prices


And this is what I stated about those fuel price controls on March 31st.
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=162053#post162053

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
kizee1
#12 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:44:14 PM
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[quote=hisah]@Kizee1 - MPC has nowhere to run nor hide. If they hike by 100bps the GDP estimate model will crumble, if they don't do anything, they're still cooked! And what will that do to gubberment spending/funding with Hague circus, constitution reform funds and definitely food imports plus oil and an upcoming election... I leave that to your imagination.

And those gubberment bonds held by the not so smart banks will become paper or is it losses in their books. What happens to the banks lending rate and their lending spree... We'll see this tape by Q3.

Inflation spikes to 12.05% still breaches my estimate of 11%, but in line with my double digit expectation. I'm doing poorly in my math. No wonder my prof failed me for being too poor in econs... smilePray Brick wall

On a brighter note, maybe my poor econs would be appreciated by MPC or gubberment since their poor track is brilliance? I'm thinking of converting my little Kshs savings into oranges or potatoes. They're more valuable anyway...

http://af.reuters.com/ar...E73S0MR20110429?sp=true[/quote]



the cbks primary object is price stability...nowhere is a growth object mentioned..the mpc in advising the cbk deviated from this object and thats y we are where we are
kizee1
#13 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:54:07 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
kyt wrote:
In the old formulae inflation would have reached 50% and putting in mind that the CBK benchmark is 5% ha!



CBR is actually at 6...i think mpc will do some drastic stuff maybe a 100 bpts hike...


MPC must be out of ideas, changing interest rates or mopping up circulation won't reduce fuel prices



what options do they have in ur view? a mop up= stronger kes.....exchange rate is the only variable in the ERC formula that the MPC can affect
hisah
#14 Posted : Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:35:39 PM
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http://www.capitalfm.co....ge-increment-12609.html

KEPSA and KAM had warned the gubberment not to increase the min wage and it just did. When gubberment goes to war with capitalism, sh** hits the fan (SHTF)...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mukiha
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:06:31 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
ladies and gents 12.05, up from 9.19...tumekufa

Don't worry; we went through the Goldenberg induced hyper-inflation from 1990-1993 and got out alive. Just tighten your belt, or figure out a way of making more money.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:28:57 PM
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Cde Monomotapa
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:36:39 PM
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The weather is looking up (or is wet) around the country. Hence, bullish about H2. Imagine since our greatest ancestors to date we are still expecting/hoping/praying for rain...NKT!! Maisha ya Mwaafrika..
Muthawamunene
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:50:51 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
The weather is looking up (or is wet) around the country. Hence, bullish about H2. Imagine since our greatest ancestors to date we are still expecting/hoping/praying for rain...NKT!! Maisha ya Mwaafrika..

We should change to "tunaomba serekali itupe mvua"Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Cde Monomotapa
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:43:33 PM
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Muthawamunene wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
The weather is looking up (or is wet) around the country. Hence, bullish about H2. Imagine since our greatest ancestors to date we are still expecting/hoping/praying for rain...NKT!! Maisha ya Mwaafrika..

We should change to "tunaomba serekali itupe mvua"Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Sirikali ya coundi.
Muthawamunene
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:45:14 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Muthawamunene wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
The weather is looking up (or is wet) around the country. Hence, bullish about H2. Imagine since our greatest ancestors to date we are still expecting/hoping/praying for rain...NKT!! Maisha ya Mwaafrika..

We should change to "tunaomba serekali itupe mvua"Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Sirikali ya coundi.

Mpigs are corrupt, i betcha wataiba mvua (if they are not already at it)
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