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erifloss
#111 Posted : Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:41:06 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
You think at Stockmaster made money in the 1Q...think again...@stockmaster 3% return adjusted to inflation of 12% is what?

Was inflation 12% for 4 months OR was it 12% for 1Q or was it annualized?

Since you are better informed than I why dont u give us inflation figures for 1Q 2011..lets see if they will be 3%?
I wouldn't be asking the question if I knew... I am using the number you quoted. Don't get prickly... I am trying to figure it out as well... ;-)

Inflation rate is yoy thus annualized:
1. Jan. - 5.42%
2. Feb. - 6.53%
3. March - 9.19%
The bureau of statistics broadened its base scope which now looks at food prices as we as transportation.
Basically using simple maths the inflation rate for the first qtr using Dec-2010 as a base can't be over 5% nor lower than 3%. Getting a precise rate as of now is hard coz i don't know the base year they are using as of now due to the changes made.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Muthawamunene
#112 Posted : Monday, May 02, 2011 8:00:56 AM
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the deal
#113 Posted : Monday, May 02, 2011 2:27:47 PM
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Hehehe i swear not to pick up an argument with @VVS...this Mzee is just something else...what ever he eats is dangerous for the stomach...what ever he spits is dangerous for the ear.
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VituVingiSana
#114 Posted : Monday, May 02, 2011 3:55:21 PM
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the deal wrote:
Hehehe i swear not to pick up an argument with @VVS...this Mzee is just something else...what ever he eats is dangerous for the stomach...what ever he spits is dangerous for the ear.
Heed that Namibian saying! Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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invest0r
#115 Posted : Monday, May 02, 2011 10:57:29 PM
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erifloss wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
You think at Stockmaster made money in the 1Q...think again...@stockmaster 3% return adjusted to inflation of 12% is what?

Was inflation 12% for 4 months OR was it 12% for 1Q or was it annualized?

Since you are better informed than I why dont u give us inflation figures for 1Q 2011..lets see if they will be 3%?
I wouldn't be asking the question if I knew... I am using the number you quoted. Don't get prickly... I am trying to figure it out as well... ;-)

Inflation rate is yoy thus annualized:
1. Jan. - 5.42%
2. Feb. - 6.53%
3. March - 9.19%
The bureau of statistics broadened its base scope which now looks at food prices as we as transportation.
Basically using simple maths the inflation rate for the first qtr using Dec-2010 as a base can't be over 5% nor lower than 3%. Getting a precise rate as of now is hard coz i don't know the base year they are using as of now due to the changes made.

Inflation for Q1 is 4.79% while inflation for 4 months is 8.15%. Stocksmaster portfolio growth of 3% should be compared with the 4 months inflation of 8.15. NOTE: Inflation is seriously biting this year.
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VituVingiSana
#116 Posted : Monday, May 02, 2011 11:11:47 PM
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@investor - Just so I am clear.

The actual inflation for 4 months is 8.15% [which mean annualized is around 25%?]

8.15/4 x 12 = 25

[Ngai! I can believe it coz fuel & food are much pricier!!!]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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invest0r
#117 Posted : Monday, May 02, 2011 11:59:39 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@investor - Just so I am clear.

The actual inflation for 4 months is 8.15% [which mean annualized is around 25%?]

8.15/4 x 12 = 25

[Ngai! I can believe it coz fuel & food are much pricier!!!]

Ceteris paribus, the annualized inflation for 2011 is 25% as you have put it. We really need to call the Ngai for our government to take actions to cushion the country from further spike in prices
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erifloss
#118 Posted : Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:01:24 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@investor - Just so I am clear.

The actual inflation for 4 months is 8.15% [which mean annualized is around 25%?]

8.15/4 x 12 = 25

[Ngai! I can believe it coz fuel & food are much pricier!!!]

Nop annualized inflation cannot be 25%. April's inflation is at around 12.05% (annualized) & thus by any measure it can't add up to 25%.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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invest0r
#119 Posted : Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:08:24 AM
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erifloss wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@investor - Just so I am clear.

The actual inflation for 4 months is 8.15% [which mean annualized is around 25%?]

8.15/4 x 12 = 25

[Ngai! I can believe it coz fuel & food are much pricier!!!]

Nop annualized inflation cannot be 25%. April's inflation is at around 12.05% (annualized) & thus by any measure it can't add up to 25%.

12.05% is the ACTUAL inflation for the 1 year from April 2010 to April 2011. Ceteris paribus, the annualized inflation for the 1 year starting Jan 2011 to Dec 2011 should be 25%
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guru267
#120 Posted : Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:17:13 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Impunity wrote:

I thought withholding tax is 15% and not 5% as indicated in your calculations above?
Ama kuna wengine special!
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Withholding tax on dividends is 15% - if you are a non-resident, which maybe @impunity is. It is 5% for mortal residents like me. With holding taxes on interest however is 15% for residents, I think it is 20% for non-residents.


witholding tax on dividends is 5% for locals and 10% for foreigners plus all east africans are considered local..
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