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Prof. Makau Mutua - Irritant!!
nostoppingthis
#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:48:20 AM
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What is wrong with this article? really!!? One is innocent until proven guilty, no need for "prayer meetings" to fill our ears with their noises. If Ocampo can't prove anything, they can come back to their followers as heros and continue with the so-called march to Statehouse....all in all, someone is responsible for planning and financing the 1300 deaths...lest we forget
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:43:17 PM
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I have no issue with current columnists in the Nation. I used to get pissed off by a certain lawyer columnist who was extremely tribal but he moved on to his ilk in the Standard
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B.Timer
#23 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:46:22 PM
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Magigi wrote:
Shak wrote:
Well, i do tend to agree with his article. Why the extreme reactions?


...Ni ukabila umekolea kwa damu zetu...Our people should not be touched even when dogs behave better than them...Shame on us!!!



This is laughable!

Where is the ukabila for heavens sake!

On discussion here is his leanings which some of us do not agree with.
Period.
Reading anything else beyond that is to over stretch imaginations.
Dunia ni msongamano..
Magigi
#24 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:57:33 PM
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Sunday, March 27, 2011
Why Martha Karua looks attractive for 2012

By MAKAU MUTUA
Posted Saturday, March 26 2011 at 17:06
In Summary
•In my book, she is one of three top presidential candidates, the others being PM Raila and VP Kalonzo


I have always had a soft spot for Gichugu MP Martha Karua. It doesn’t matter that I occasionally disagree with her. There is something deeply attractive about her as a person and politician.
As a feminist, I admire strong women who break down the patriarchy. It’s a fact that in Kikuyu culture – and in Kenya – oppressive hetero-patriarchy and misogyny are deeply entrenched.
But no society is static. That’s why Ms Karua is polling well among the Kikuyu and the nation at large.
In my book, Ms Karua is one of three top presidential candidates – the others are PM Raila Odinga and VP Kalonzo Musyoka. Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto are out.
Don’t ask me why Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto are “finished”. Let’s stop kidding ourselves. I would advise their supporters to accept reality and move on.
Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto – two of the Ocampo Six – are “out for the count”. ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo has dealt them a mortal blow. This is fact, not fiction.
As a jurist, I have no doubt that the ICC Pre-Trial Chamber will confirm the charges for crimes against humanity against them. These trials typically last forever.
If you doubt me, look at former Liberian strongman Charles Taylor’s trial. Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto are unlikely to be there for 2012. This makes Ms Karua more attractive and swings the door wide open for her.
No one doubts that Kenyans will largely vote in ethnic blocs in 2012. This is totally undesirable, but it’s reality – for now. With Mr Kenyatta out of the way, Ms Karua will command a large bloc of the Kikuyu vote.
Actually, I think she would do very well among the Kikuyu, even with Mr Kenyatta as a candidate. This is why. Mr Kenyatta is the candidate of the moneyed Kikuyu elite. Ms Karua is the darling of the hoi polloi.
This is a historical chasm in Kikuyu society. The late JM Kariuki spoke to the aspirations of the downtrodden. So does Ms Karua. The late Mzee Jomo Kenyatta chose the rich over the poor and the Mau Mau.
Among the Kikuyu, Ms Karua has inherited JM Kariuki’s mantle. In contrast, Mr Kenyatta is truly his father’s son – he’s the “project” of the country club elite. Ms Karua has grown as a reformer.
She’s one of only a small handful of consistently progressive MPs. She was a champion of human and women’s rights before going to Parliament.
While there, she distinguished herself as Kanu’s Public Enemy Number One. It is said that former President Daniel arap Moi would shake in rage whenever her name was mentioned.
Dark moments
I don’t deny that she had dark moments under Narc when she ardently defended President Mwai Kibaki. She did so again – ferociously and with steel – in the 2007 contested election.
But then she “saw the light” and returned to her progressive roots. She resigned her Cabinet post and turned her guns on PNU. Today, she is an eloquent champion of human rights, democracy, and the rights of the poor.
No politician attacks corruption and impunity with more vigour. She has eschewed tribal alliances like the PNU/KKK which brings together Mr Musyoka, Mr Kenyatta, and Mr Ruto.
This begs the question – can she get enough votes outside the Mt Kenya region? I think so. This is especially true if she appeals to women and to people and communities that have been marginalised. She cannot run as a Kikuyu, but as a woman and the candidate of “the people”.
However, Ms Karua must still contend with the “Kalonzo Factor” in the Mt Kenya region. In Mr Kenyatta’s absence, the Kikuyu elite could very well turn to Mr Musyoka. They would do so out of disdain for Ms Karua. Ethnically, Mr Musyoka is a Kamba and probably a “close enough cousin” to be trusted by the Kikuyu elite.


Mr Musyoka could then remind Mr Ruto’s supporters in the Rift Valley that he tried – in vain – to save their son from The Hague. In this scenario, Mr Musyoka would be the PNU/KKK candidate.
There is a chance that he could garner large baskets of votes among the Kalenjin, Kikuyu and Kamba communities. This is Ms Karua’s nightmare scenario.
But assuming Mr Musyoka is not a threat, Ms Karua would still have to contend with the formidable Mr Odinga. The man is a political juggernaut. Opponents underestimate him at their own peril. Those who parody his “football metaphors” may be digging their own graves.
Mr Odinga connects with the hoi polloi and the youth – in every region of the country. He is the most electrifying politician in Kenya.
Presidential candidates
In my view, Mr Odinga and Ms Karua are the only two presidential candidates with the potential to transform the Kenyan state.
He is more populist and a better polemicist than Ms Karua. But she is as tough as nails. In a head-to-head matchup, it’s anyone’s guess what would happen.
There is a tantalising possibility that we can’t afford to ignore. If Mr Musyoka were the PNU/KKK candidate, would Ms Karua and Mr Odinga come together? This ticket, which is not far-fetched, would be very difficult to beat.
The only question would be the order of the ticket – who would be on top? I doubt Ms Karua would want to be on the bottom. But I can’t think of Mr Odinga being the subordinate either.
Does this mean a Karua/Odinga or Odinga/Karua ticket is dead? No – anything is possible with the right incentives.
Makau Mutua is Dean and SUNY Distinguished Professor at the State University of New York at Buffalo Law School and Chair of the KHRC.


@B.Timer
...when Makau Mutua wrote favourably about Martha Karua, i did not hear you call him an irritant...!!! In any case in his latest article he is only telling us what we already know. It is the the likes of Ruto, Uhuru and others who are like minded who are irritants. Over 1,300 people died, all this instigated by the two among others. and now these two guys are buddies to death. Go tell it to the birds!!!
McReggae
#25 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:59:15 AM
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Magigi, thanks for standing up for a brother, howver people try to colour their postings, one can easily tel why they are mad at Makau!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Lolest!
#26 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:14:36 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Magigi, thanks for standing up for a brother, howver people try to colour their postings, one can easily tel why they are mad at Makau!!!!

Yeah, and I can easily tell why you are happy with Makau!!
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#27 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 7:27:02 AM
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@Magigi
Goodness gracious!!!
Trying to insinuate that I am a Martha Karua supporter!
One needs to read a couple of my posts in Wazua to appreciate my thoughts on her posturing.
It follows that I also don’t agree with Prof on his article about her.
However his latest article was most despicable. Too biased and pedestrian to have come from a scholar of his training.

Well, if you insist on reading ukabila, as laughable as it is, I can do very little to shift your view.
Dunia ni msongamano..
oteve
#28 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 8:18:39 AM
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Makau behaves like he wants to replace nyang nyong as raos hatchet man phew
Magigi
#29 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 10:14:48 AM
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@B.Timer
...Peace, peace, peace, mblo...Those are your views and I respect them. I hope you do likewise to mine and lets move on...As best as I know, Prof Mutua Makau is a genius par excellence...
B.Timer
#30 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 6:44:55 PM
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Prof Makau is a little like Miguna Miguna in terms of being hyper opinionated and delivering the same in acerbic tone!

Thats why it provided for some comic relief when in not too distant past the two had a spat between themselves!

Prof Makau made "the mistake" of criticising Raila.

Miguna Miguna, as sure as day follows night, hit back in his characteristic caustic fashion.

Talk of getting a dose of ones prescription.

For as long as Prof Makau continues to borrow from the Migunas school of thought, he should expect to keep disenchanting us.

Dunia ni msongamano..
B.Timer
#31 Posted : Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:52:24 PM
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The Prof at it again.
I read intellectual arrogance.
Mr. Know it all.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/kvjd6xz/-/index.html
Dunia ni msongamano..
Magigi
#32 Posted : Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:10:55 AM
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@B.Timer
...Still an irritant???
Five reasons Martha Karua could win the presidency
http://www.nation.co.ke/...38/-/gx3dl1/-/index.html
B.Timer
#33 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17:09 PM
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[quote=Magigi]@B.Timer
...Still an irritant???
Five reasons Martha Karua could win the presidency
http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/gx3dl1/-/index.html[/quote]


This article is so pedestrian that one is left to wonder if Prof sometimes doesnt discard his scholarly hat and assume that of a hawkish campaigner!

The reasoning and arguments there-in are so far fetched that one can only assume that the professor has thrown all caution to the wind.

Engaging in wishful thinking is not expected of a Prof - especialy in a public write up by himself.

What will he say when the inevitable happens - dismal perfomance by Karua in the run up to 2012 or at the polls themselves!
Dunia ni msongamano..
the sage
#34 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:42:51 PM
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What will he say when the inevitable happens - dismal perfomance(sic) by Karua in the run up to 2012 or at the polls themselves!

@B. Timer since you're a psychic I have two favors, which is the best investment, my time horizon is 6 months,
I also have two dates, which is the best to pick, let's just say for my financing there must be romancing but I want to know who will hurt my wallet less.
Magigi
#35 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:13:43 PM
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[quote=B.Timer]
This is one hell of a hopeless elitist who uses his gut feeling to pretend to analyse goings on in Kenya from distant lands!

The article below is a one such outburst!

He must worship Ocampo!!

Wonder what he would have to say should his hero lose the cases against the 06.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/pnlvdq/-/index.html[/quote]

AS WE DISCREDIT HIM HERE AT HOME HIS STAR IS RAISING IN THE US.
...And in the United States Sunday Nation columnist Prof Makau Mutua has been named to a new committee that will review and consider the qualifications of candidates for a division of the Supreme Court of New York.

Prof Mutua's appointment was announced by New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo. Prof Mutua, who is a dean and State University of New York distinguished professor, will now sit on the Fourth Department Judicial Screening Committee.

"We have established screening committees to ensure a fair and thorough process for selecting judicial appointees in New York," Governor Cuomo said. "Only the most talented and dedicated legal minds should be on the bench and making the important decisions that can impact all New Yorkers."

Screening teams The committee is one of five screening teams established to review and consider the qualifications of candidates for designation to the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court, candidates for appointment to the Court of Claims, and candidates for appointment to fill interim vacancies in the offices of Justice of the Supreme Court and judges of the County Court, the Surrogate Court, and of the Family Court outside of New York City. Each committee consists of 13 members and the governor has a provision to select five.

http://dn.nationmedia.co...15_05_2011_009_003.shtml
simonkabz
#36 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 8:38:47 AM
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Regardless of his success, he remains an irritant. The society expects a lot frm someone of his calibre. Its his social position vs his pedestrian rants that shocks some of us. But the worst bit is HATING. This one n Nyong'o wako na kasoro kubwa sana.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Ms Mkenya
#37 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 9:10:21 AM
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Jaina wrote:

Makau replaced citizen number 4855678 as a permanent columnist on Sunday Nation, How i miss Ngunyi.


From the time Ngunyi mentioned in an article he favoured the 'NO' vote for the referendum, he 'disappeared'.
....above all, to stand.
B.Timer
#38 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 8:51:59 PM
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Prof sticks his neck out again.
Time will tell.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/11ojv6hz/-/index.html


Dunia ni msongamano..
Inuendo
#39 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:38:27 PM
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I give Prof Mutua "A" for effort and "F" for substance.... Isn't it just tiring to write such blatantly biased articles week in week out? Eish....!!!!Eh? Speak to the hand
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world. Everyone thinks he has enough.
nostoppingthis
#40 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 9:36:16 AM
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B.Timer wrote:
Prof sticks his neck out again.
Time will tell.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/11ojv6hz/-/index.html




@B.Timer and @Inuendo, is what Prof Makau saying far fetched? Is it possible for UK's followers to vote for WR or vice versa? Have UK followers voted for any other presidential candidate not perceived to be their own?
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