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Banks Wont make you Money in 2011
the deal
#31 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:18:06 AM
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Well good perfomance by Coop...Forward FY EPS now at 1.88 if they mantain this perfomance that gives a forward FY PE of 9.8 if you buy at 18.5...still i prefer C&G with a trailing PE of 5.
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:29:11 AM
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the deal wrote:
Well good perfomance by Coop...Forward FY EPS now at 1.88 if they mantain this perfomance that gives a forward FY PE of 9.8 if you buy at 18.5...still i prefer C&G with a trailing PE of 5.

A forward P/E of 9 doesnt compare to kcb's trailing P/E of 10
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mwanahisa
#33 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:32:02 AM
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The deal. It was only yesterday that you opined that PE does not cut it any more.

BTW, I have some shares in C & G, but I sold off most of my stake when the price skyrocketed. I can however advise folks to ONLY buy C&G if they are in it for the long term. It is damned illiquid. This is not a share that you can rely on for emergencies.

the deal wrote:
Well good perfomance by Coop...Forward FY EPS now at 1.88 if they mantain this perfomance that gives a forward FY PE of 9.8 if you buy at 18.5...still i prefer C&G with a trailing PE of 5.

the deal
#34 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:41:25 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
The deal. It was only yesterday that you opined that PE does not cut it any more.

BTW, I have some shares in C & G, but I sold off most of my stake when the price skyrocketed. I can however advise folks to ONLY buy C&G if they are in it for the long term. It is damned illiquid. This is not a share that you can rely on for emergencies.

the deal wrote:
Well good perfomance by Coop...Forward FY EPS now at 1.88 if they mantain this perfomance that gives a forward FY PE of 9.8 if you buy at 18.5...still i prefer C&G with a trailing PE of 5.


Well i'm looking at the low PE...possibility of doubled digit growth...good dividend...past perfomance C&G has continued to grow...regional expansion...i bought this thing last year at 38 sold in Feb at 68...now i'm back again buying at 36...i'm happy to hold for 2 years...i only invest money i can afford to loose...so no ermegencies pap...lol...@guru i have some KCB i bought @ 21.75...i will be adding depending on availability of funds.
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:07:11 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
@deal i wouldn't touch KK and Total the margins in oil sector are just pathetic. MSC I will wait until it's 6.50 speculation can't invest in a company where CEO is thinking of running for governor. C&G, CMC these companies didn't make money with government passats


umd**** point hapo
sparkly
#36 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:21:29 PM
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the deal wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
The deal. It was only yesterday that you opined that PE does not cut it any more.

BTW, I have some shares in C & G, but I sold off most of my stake when the price skyrocketed. I can however advise folks to ONLY buy C&G if they are in it for the long term. It is damned illiquid. This is not a share that you can rely on for emergencies.

the deal wrote:
Well good perfomance by Coop...Forward FY EPS now at 1.88 if they mantain this perfomance that gives a forward FY PE of 9.8 if you buy at 18.5...still i prefer C&G with a trailing PE of 5.


Well i'm looking at the low PE...possibility of doubled digit growth...good dividend...past perfomance C&G has continued to grow...regional expansion...i bought this thing last year at 38 sold in Feb at 68...now i'm back again buying at 36...i'm happy to hold for 2 years...i only invest money i can afford to loose...so no ermegencies pap...lol...@guru i have some KCB i bought @ 21.75...i will be adding depending on availability of funds.


C&G good company but have a tendency of financing working capital with loans. Thats why i am not comfortable with it. Do they make profits for shareholders or for the banks?
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:26:20 PM
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sparkly wrote:
the deal wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
The deal. It was only yesterday that you opined that PE does not cut it any more.

BTW, I have some shares in C & G, but I sold off most of my stake when the price skyrocketed. I can however advise folks to ONLY buy C&G if they are in it for the long term. It is damned illiquid. This is not a share that you can rely on for emergencies.

the deal wrote:
Well good perfomance by Coop...Forward FY EPS now at 1.88 if they mantain this perfomance that gives a forward FY PE of 9.8 if you buy at 18.5...still i prefer C&G with a trailing PE of 5.


Well i'm looking at the low PE...possibility of doubled digit growth...good dividend...past perfomance C&G has continued to grow...regional expansion...i bought this thing last year at 38 sold in Feb at 68...now i'm back again buying at 36...i'm happy to hold for 2 years...i only invest money i can afford to loose...so no ermegencies pap...lol...@guru i have some KCB i bought @ 21.75...i will be adding depending on availability of funds.

C&G good company but have a tendency of financing working capital with loans. Thats why i am not comfortable with it. Do they make profits for shareholders or for the banks?

Kuweni serious! If you do not have the cash, then you are forced to borrow... It is financial leverage. BTW, the banking business is based on financial leverage. They 'borrow' from depositors & 'lend' to borrowers...
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#38 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 3:55:05 PM
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NBK...CFC so far belong here...i expect more to join by 1H...
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#39 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 6:43:10 PM
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I think its going to be a tough 2H for ALL banks
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#40 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 7:58:07 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
I think its going to be a tough 2H for ALL banks

I will be happy if Eqty did 40% and mantained it until Year end.
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