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House-helps and HIV
Tebes
#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:08:30 PM
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@Otienosmall
Perhaps the best you could have done is to talk to her just as you would have done to your own daughter or sister in the same situation. Moreover take her along with you and talk to a trained counsellor so as to have adequate info on dos and donts between your children and the househelp.

What if it was your Boss who is HIV positive, would you leave employment?
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:37:00 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
as a family having discussed the pro and cons of the situation, we decided to humanely let her go and my conscious tells me that this is in no way discriminative


Did you let her know why you were 'letting her go'?

In conclusion, I know this decision is good for your conscious and is probably the right one for you and your family, I personally honestly still don't know what I'd have done if I were you but it is also good to always remember that the people with HIV need a constant income to survive on ARVs so even if we let them go let's try and get them something else to do

BBI will solve it
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Um Sayala
#23 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:10:35 PM
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@ otienosmall, what you did , to me, is the best, and u should not feel any guilt. Some of the advice here are more theoritical than practical, others argue like they do not have kids.
she cd stay with u while u were not aware of her condition, but trusting her with your KIDS after such discovery could not only be very careless but to me, criminal on your part. The guilt would never leave u if u got ure kid infected (if by her) afterwords.
dont get me wrong, i dont disciminate but i have a responsibilty to protect my kids, at whatever cost.
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jguru
#24 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:49:46 PM
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@otienosmall

The househelp is not legally obligated to disclose her HIV status to her employer. If she had done so during the recruitment process, you probably would not have given her the job. She has a right to speak out or not speak out about it.

The fact that she is on ARVs means that either her CD4 count is quite low, as low as less than 350, or that she was/is at a WHO HIV stage that necessitated the ARVs. This means her immunity is low and her body may not have the ability to fight illnesses as well as it should.

Considering that the househelp takes care of the children, and children naturally have not developed their immune systems fully, it could predispose the children to illnesses. Think of skin infections such as herpes zoster and candidiasis, diarrhoeal diseases such as Cryptosporidium, and other serious diseases such as Tuberculosis.

Children cannot decide between wrong and right. And adults seemingly judge situations better than they do. We as parents have a role to protect our children from any harm that may befall them.

I have often heard boys and men declare that their first sexual contacts were with househelps. Your 9 year old boy might indulge and get infected. It is likened to having bare electrical wires at a socket outlet in the house, and hoping and hoping, that your small son or daughter does not touch them. Fix it. Now.

I am biased towards children care. I have no objections towards living with a HIV positive person in the house, as long as the interactions are between adults, with mature mindsets and devoid of stigma. But you should strongly consider whether it is wise to have your child care provider being HIV positive.

Else, make sure that she is solidly counselled and understands that she has an illness that portends a health risk to the children. That she comprehends compliance to her medication, adherence to her ARV clinics, prompt treatment for opportunistic infections, hygiene in contact with the children, proper disposal of body and blood products, proper nutrition for herself and open communication and full disclosure to the parents in case any of her health conditions change. Regardless, HIV positive mothers carry their babies to term, deliver safely, and bring up their children to be healthy and HIV negative. The househelp can accomplish this too.
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sungura2005
#25 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:03:00 AM
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@otienosmall

With your warped argument, we shouldn't date / marry nurses and doctors coz they could get infected by a patient and then infect us. My wife is a nurse.
KenyanLyrics
#26 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:16:47 AM
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sungura2005 wrote:
@otienosmall

With your warped argument, we shouldn't date / marry nurses and doctors coz they could get infected by a patient and then infect us. My wife is a nurse.

mazee the stupidity in this thread is amusing! Ha ha ha ha!
famooz
#27 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:09:56 AM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
sungura2005 wrote:
@otienosmall

With your warped argument, we shouldn't date / marry nurses and doctors coz they could get infected by a patient and then infect us. My wife is a nurse.

mazee the stupidity in this thread is amusing! Ha ha ha ha!



@ Kenyalyrics,how about posting something that ain't stupid then?
MaichBlack
#28 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:09:40 AM
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@Otienosmall - Don't feel guilty about anything. Your PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY is to your kids. Anyone with a kid knows what that means. Don't listen to youngsters giving you theoretical solutions and quoting some sections of the law. These are YOUR kids. Do what you believe is right for THEM. No apologies to anyone. Even animals protect their young ones with all they've got. Ni binadamu tu?
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KenyanLyrics
#29 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:35:40 AM
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People, we have to live by facts. The facts on HIV transmission are very clear, but still an educated man allows silly rumours and opinions to cloud judgement. Tell me @otienosmall, how on earth was your househelp going to transmit HIV to your kid? Did they look like they were having unprotected sex? Were they sharing needles? Ama is she the one who bore him?
Since these three are highly unlikely, I can only assume that you were swayed by jinga-type arguments like the ones in this thread e.g transmission via shared toothpicks, shared toothbrushes and fruit salad.
KenyanLyrics
#30 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:41:28 AM
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PS: I wish there was a way you could also 'accidentally stumble' into your workmates' bags. You will be very shocked how 'at risk' you are at the office. Maybe you need to ask your boss to do some cleansing NKT
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