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Gbagbo & Ouattara
Inuendo
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:27:02 AM
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Gbagbo aside, who will try Alassane Ouattara for the war crimes and crimes against humanity he has committed in order to take control of Cote d’Ivoire? d'oh!
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otienosmall
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:30:58 PM
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The situation in Cote D’Ivoire is much more complex than what is seen out here. Note the country was originally inhabited by Christians who were determined to kick poverty away. The booming economy attracted an influx of illegal immigrants from the neighbouring countries predominately Muslims. Gbagbo, and his ethnic group (Christians mainly) were the original settlers of cote d'ivoire while Ouattara's ethnic group (Muslim) arrived mainly in the last few decades from neighbouring states. It is true Gbagbo is no saint, but his ousting was largely castigated by other external forces. For one, Gbagbo may have refused to play ball as per their colonial masters. France may have picked a stooge to run its interest. France and Ouattara assisted the influx to build numbers over time. You will be amazed to learn that population of Muslims was about 25% in the country barely 15 years ago. Currently the population stands at Muslim 45%, Christian 40%, and indigenous 18%.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:48:21 PM
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@otieno, scary statistics when you think about Kenya and immigrants from our neighbour. Msiba wa kujitakia...
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:53:43 PM
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If Ouattara has committed crimes against humanity, he will, like Paul Kagame institute a system of guided democracy to shield him from prosecution and keep him in power forever.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:32:29 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
The situation in Cote D’Ivoire is much more complex than what is seen out here. Note the country was originally inhabited by Christians who were determined to kick poverty away. The booming economy attracted an influx of illegal immigrants from the neighbouring countries predominately Muslims. Gbagbo, and his ethnic group (Christians mainly) were the original settlers of cote d'ivoire while Ouattara's ethnic group (Muslim) arrived mainly in the last few decades from neighbouring states. It is true Gbagbo is no saint, but his ousting was largely castigated by other external forces. For one, Gbagbo may have refused to play ball as per their colonial masters. France may have picked a stooge to run its interest. France and Ouattara assisted the influx to build numbers over time. You will be amazed to learn that population of Muslims was about 25% in the country barely 15 years ago. Currently the population stands at Muslim 45%, Christian 40%, and indigenous 18%.


This line of thinking is normally very exhausting because its flawed. why not just keep it simple and answer relevant questions as below;
- are the immigrants Ivorian citizens with a right to vote?
- Who between Ouattara and Gbagbo won the elections
- Why is religion relevant to this arguement
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Inuendo
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:37:12 PM
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My biggest problem with this issue is that "we" are all fine with Ouattara's position now as it is. He may (and I use the word cautiously here) have legitimately won the election but the manner in which he now gets into office is questionable. When the "West" say they support him to the extent of arming his 'rebels' to kick out Gbabgo what does this say about the independence and as Moi used to put it "sovereignty" of a country.
More worrying is what is happening in Libya, I don't doubt that Gadafi is a dictator (any man who calls himself "king" of Africa must be smoking more than cigars )but who are this 'rebels' that are being armed. Did the common mwanainchi of Libya take up arms? Or is this hullabaloo all about the oil?
Back to Ivory Coast, Otienosmall raises what I believe to be a valid point. For example Kenya has had an influx of our brothers and sisters from the horn who now reside in their posh Eastliegh apartments. Are they now Kenyans? Do they have a right to vote?
@ Obi 1 Kanobi in regard to your questions, according to me,
1. I have no clue as to whether the immigrants have the right to vote and if that is the point which makes them "the others" hence the ill feeling towards them
2.No Kenyan can pretend to know who won the election in Ivory Coast.
3.Religion is relevant if it becomes the dividing factor (read tribalism in Kenya)
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