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Djinn		#1 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 2:39:42 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565		Africa's most populous state is about to show its mettle as a TRUE democracy that can transition in 12 years from a military state to a civilian state with relatively calm and transparent elections and with candidates that have REAL development agendas.... President Goodluck Jonathan appears to have a decent lead after Saturday's polls... This certainly will say a lot about the trends that have been set elsewhere, where losers of rigged or disputed elections, seek to wrest power from legitimate winners...where outright winners have to resort to the law of the barrel of the gun... We need this outcome to help punctuate the travesties we have seen in some countries...
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masukuma		#2 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 3:01:53 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		boss, you are so naive! of course elections that are one sided are considered "free and fair!" like kenya's 2002 election, the 2 referendums. the issue is - what happens when its too close to call? Nigeria is far from being a true democracy, a true democracy is where people respect the institutions of and that cannot be detected from a one sided win! the only test is if Goodluck johnson had 49% and had spent a load of cash in the campaign and the some other fellow had 51% in a second round voting and people accepted the electoral commission's decision! that would be a TRUE DEMOCRACY! bila hiyo, unajidanganya! politics in africa is too highstaked. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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selah		#3 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 3:05:18 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya		FLASH: Northern post-election riots spreads to Yobe State. Youths are attacking Southerners and burning their shops/houses and churches. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Djinn		#4 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 3:12:34 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565		masukuma wrote: boss, you are so naive! of course elections that are one sided are considered "free and fair!" like kenya's 2002 election, the 2 referendums. the issue is - what happens when its too close to call? Nigeria is far from being a true democracy, a true democracy is where people respect the institutions of and that cannot be detected from a one sided win! the only test is if Goodluck johnson had 49% and had spent a load of cash in the campaign and the some other fellow had 51% in a second round voting and people accepted the electoral commission's decision! that would be a TRUE DEMOCRACY! bila hiyo, unajidanganya! politics in africa is too highstaked. Ah, I see you are the breath of fresh air we all need...logic mired in "how it has always been" rather than seeking to rise to "what it should be". Naive or not, my friends and colleagues in Nigeria, who are on the ground and have been since the last election, concur that this is a win for democracy. So, feel free to foam at the mouth and pontificate about what you think true democracy is....even with a little bloodshed,,,it it a better model of democracy than we have in Kenya...
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Djinn		#5 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 3:16:10 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565		selah wrote: FLASH: Northern post-election riots spreads to Yobe State. Youths are attacking Southerners and burning their shops/houses and churches. unfortunate that...but unlikely to grow into a full conflict...all it says is they have some misguided, unemployed youth...
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masukuma		#6 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 5:25:36 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		@Djinn, when its one sided, its easy for everyone to call it, and people to claim its democracy (we were there in 2002 remember?) and thats not a test, the test is something like US election 2000. not a 70% win. p.s. democracy is not the opposition winning either, its the ability and maturity of the people of a country to accept results as given by the institution in place regardless of how bitter they are after all checks and balances systems in place and working. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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kyt		#7 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 6:30:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182		@ masukuma has a good point djinn #validpoint LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Magigi		#8 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 6:36:21 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		Djinn wrote: Africa's most populous state is about to show its mettle as a TRUE democracy that can transition in 12 years from a military state to a civilian state with relatively calm and transparent elections and with candidates that have REAL development agendas.... President Goodluck Jonathan appears to have a decent lead after Saturday's polls... This certainly will say a lot about the trends that have been set elsewhere, where losers of rigged or disputed elections, seek to wrest power from legitimate winners...where outright winners have to resort to the law of the barrel of the gun... We need this outcome to help punctuate the travesties we have seen in some countries... ...too early to say...Violence has started in the North...
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freiks		#9 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 6:47:10 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,734		And still 99.63% for JONA in one polling station??????? Reminds me of some polling stations in othumo Life is an endless adventure
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Jaina		#10 Posted : Monday, April 18, 2011 7:12:55 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2008 Posts: 558		Democracy is gaining ground in nigeria yes. However: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13107867 Riots galore.
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