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61% of kenyans prefer the ICC
Sober
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:13:35 PM
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http://www.nation.co.ke/...2/-/7qbmkq/-/index.html

an improvement of 1% from december. this maybe the first real statistics taken right. ii contributed to that 'one'
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:29:44 PM
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Sober wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1139102/-/7qbmkq/-/index.html

an improvement of 1% from december. this maybe the first real statistics taken right. ii contributed to that 'one'


So are you on the 61% or 39% ?
McReggae
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:45:36 PM
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Hague: 61%
Local tribunal: 24%
Local courts: 8%

The synovate poll captures the reality on the ground. Kenyans are fond of flocking political rallies..for support, out of curiosity or for mere fun. The fact is that some of those u see flocking these rallies actually suffered during the 2007/08 ...violence and they still want long lasting justice.They know the so called new-found peace between Uhuru and Ruto is a pipe dream. Everybody wants a country free of fear. nobody wants to wake up and be uprooted from their homes anymore. nobody wants to see their kinsmen chopped with machetes to pieces by the roadside. And few Kenyans beleive that local judges can be impartial. People want peace and a stable future. This is the underlying reason for this massive support for Hague-based prosecutions.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nostoppingthis
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:58:36 PM
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wewe!! @sober, you want to kosana with akina @simonkabz
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:25:09 PM
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ICC is important. TJRC is critical. The people are not reconciled. Without TJRC, violence is a matter of when not if.
Wendz
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:35:08 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
wewe!! @sober, you want to kosana with akina @simonkabz


But he has said the truth... I would love to see justice done to each and every soul in whichever form it comes (international or local). For now, and until we have a local tribunal, there is really no justice we expect to see done to the victims and perpetrators.

If UK and WR are innocent, let them go, they will be cleared and they come back and lead their normal lives.... and hopefully be alternating presidents of kenya. If they are found guilty, let them rot in jail....And if Ocampo has good enough evidence to come for Raila, let him also go rot there. if someone chopped off his neighbours hands and burnt his house, let him carry his cross... why do I say this? I voted in 2007. I had luo, luhya, kamba, etc neighbours who voted too. We all voted for different people. Did all our candidates win? Of course no. Did we get pissed off? of course yes but I did not kill them and they did not kill me. Werent our votes as important as for the ones of those who voted in eldoret, kisumu, naivasha so that they can kill their neighbours because "their vote was stolen"?
nostoppingthis
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:50:38 PM
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Wendz wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
wewe!! @sober, you want to kosana with akina @simonkabz


But he has said the truth... I would love to see justice done to each and every soul in whichever form it comes (international or local). For now, and until we have a local tribunal, there is really no justice we expect to see done to the victims and perpetrators.

If UK and WR are innocent, let them go, they will be cleared and they come back and lead their normal lives.... and hopefully be alternating presidents of kenya. If they are found guilty, let them rot in jail....And if Ocampo has good enough evidence to come for Raila, let him also go rot there. if someone chopped off his neighbours hands and burnt his house, let him carry his cross... why do I say this? I voted in 2007. I had luo, luhya, kamba, etc neighbours who voted too. We all voted for different people. Did all our candidates win? Of course no. Did we get pissed off? of course yes but I did not kill them and they did not kill me. Werent our votes as important as for the ones of those who voted in eldoret, kisumu, naivasha so that they can kill their neighbours because "their vote was stolen"?


...."i withdraw my earlier statement here" was just trying to look at either side of the political divide
simonkabz
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:01:31 PM
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@nostop lol! wacha uchokozi maze
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nostoppingthis
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:03:27 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
@nostop lol! wacha uchokozi maze


you saw it Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly damn!! but with that statement @wendz is looking at only one side of the situation
mwanahisa
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:26:57 PM
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Actually Wendz's views are pretty balanced. I like many other Kenyans do not believe that the high and mighty on the Ocampo list would get an impartial trial in Kenya.
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