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TRUE POLITICIAN......????!!!
segemia
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:44:03 AM
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According to W. Ruto,

"....watu wengine wanasema ati kazi ya chief justice ipewe mzungu. Kazi ya DPP pia mzungu. Investigations za post election violence ifanywe na FBI ama Scotland yard..Na nyinyi Wakenya kazi yenu itakuwa ya kuchimba mitaro na kufyeka nyasi"

OMG!!!How right he wasLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
simonkabz
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:52:13 AM
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Very true. The PM is a disgrace to Africa.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Elder
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:00:12 AM
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segemia wrote:
According to W. Ruto,

"....watu wengine wanasema ati kazi ya chief justice ipewe mzungu. Kazi ya DPP pia mzungu. Investigations za post election violence ifanywe na FBI ama Scotland yard..Na nyinyi Wakenya kazi yenu itakuwa ya kuchimba mitaro na kufyeka nyasi"

OMG!!!How right he wasLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Good guy. No wonder his legal team to the Hague is made up exclusively of Kenyans.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
Elder
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:04:22 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Very true. The PM is a disgrace to Africa.


Politics aside have you considered the merits for using foreigners on those posts or investigations of some specific crimes? On the latter would you give thought to the US DEA or other non-local investigators being involved in the Kenyan drug situation or exclusively using our crack Kenyan police?
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
nostoppingthis
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:11:02 AM
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..yet another thread
simonkabz
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:24:12 AM
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@elder hehe.........u have a point but we can do good by ourselves too. Hao DEA wameshindwa na drugs US, hapa wataweza??
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
ecstacy
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:46:00 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
@elder hehe.........u have a point but we can do good by ourselves too. Hao DEA wameshindwa na drugs US, hapa wataweza??


The British Govt last week commended Kenyan police forces for investigating and impounding the drug haul.
Elder
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:46:25 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
@elder hehe.........u have a point but we can do good by ourselves too. Hao DEA wameshindwa na drugs US, hapa wataweza??


Enyewe wameshidwa huko kwao. But to me the biggest plus for that would be that they are outsiders and would mostly have no vested interest in investigations. It is a tight call too and such measures need to be party of a bigger policy incorporating a change in how we do things as we need to learn to rely on and trust our institutions.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
ecstacy
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:16:54 PM
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Elder wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
@elder hehe.........u have a point but we can do good by ourselves too. Hao DEA wameshindwa na drugs US, hapa wataweza??


Enyewe wameshidwa huko kwao. But to me the biggest plus for that would be that they are outsiders and would mostly have no vested interest in investigations. It is a tight call too and such measures need to be party of a bigger policy incorporating a change in how we do things as we need to learn to rely on and trust our institutions.


Glad to find a Wazuan seeing the bigger picture. The solution for generations to come lies in strengthening our local institutions.

The mental captivity and seige to foreign dominion is apparent with the approach Mr Raila Odinga takes to solving local problems and the manner with which some of his followers blindly follow this individual without due regard to the impact such an intellectually impoverished approach has to the future of this country.

The white man has never and will never solve our problems other than pretend to do so as they seek to spread their spheres of systemic slavery. Again, the solution for generations to come lies in strengthening our local institutions.

Buster
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:47:07 PM
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Mr. Ruto is just playing politics. He himself is on record calling for 'credible international' investigators to look into the PEV.

If you notice, what He does these days is to wait for RAO to say anything then He ponces on the Guy.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:59:06 PM
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dont like the way these mzungus r pounding Libya and now Gbagbo's palace in abijan trying out their military power. Next year, they will come to pound us when one guy(everyone here knows who) refuses to concede defeat and declares himself..."The Internationally recognised President of Kenya" citing rigging.
If we don't have a clear winning candidate a month before the polls n tolerate the biased opinion polls, we will be in for some air strikes from the mzungus n even your little 2 bedroom flat which you are still paying mortgage for will be bombed!
Take heed. This is serious and not a laughing matter!
@SufficientlyP
Wendz
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:55:31 PM
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ecstacy wrote:


The white man has never and will never solve our problems other than pretend to do so as they seek to spread their spheres of systemic slavery. Again, the solution for generations to come lies in strengthening our local institutions.



On this, we are in total agreement. the mzungu will only "help" you if he thinks he will benefit more if you 'succeed'... otherwise, he will be pounding you on one had and feeding you with the other... and you know which hand will be more active....

But am sure we are all in agreement that more often than not, we are the ones who have let ourselves down by letting the silver coin dominate our integrity.
segemia
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:40:12 PM
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Ruto was talking not just like a politician, but a prophet. The route that our kubafu leaders are telling or recommending to us will surely lead us to where we all came from.

The leaders wants nzungu to take over everything and be the master and you the natives be under him under slaverly terms. Read Rutos statement in between lines and see the hidden meaning.
YesuWangu
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:42:40 PM
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segemia wrote:
According to W. Ruto,

"....watu wengine wanasema ati kazi ya chief justice ipewe mzungu. Kazi ya DPP pia mzungu. Investigations za post election violence ifanywe na FBI ama Scotland yard..Na nyinyi Wakenya kazi yenu itakuwa ya kuchimba mitaro na kufyeka nyasi"

OMG!!!How right he wasLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


The esoteric meaning might be what has got Kibunja worried.
nostoppingthis
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:46:54 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Elder wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
@elder hehe.........u have a point but we can do good by ourselves too. Hao DEA wameshindwa na drugs US, hapa wataweza??


Enyewe wameshidwa huko kwao. But to me the biggest plus for that would be that they are outsiders and would mostly have no vested interest in investigations. It is a tight call too and such measures need to be party of a bigger policy incorporating a change in how we do things as we need to learn to rely on and trust our institutions.


Glad to find a Wazuan seeing the bigger picture. The solution for generations to come lies in strengthening our local institutions.

The mental captivity and seige to foreign dominion is apparent with the approach Mr Raila Odinga takes to solving local problems and the manner with which some of his followers blindly follow this individual without due regard to the impact such an intellectually impoverished approach has to the future of this country.

The white man has never and will never solve our problems other than pretend to do so as they seek to spread their spheres of systemic slavery. Again, the solution for generations to come lies in strengthening our local institutions.



Isn't EMK/RAO?Martha the ones who proposed local tribunal in parliament for these same guys to shoot it down?
nostoppingthis
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:48:57 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Very true. The PM is a disgrace to Africa.


dedication to @simonkabz, @ngalaka, @B.Timer et al

ENJOY!
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nostoppingthis
#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 5:01:40 PM
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Wendz wrote:
ecstacy wrote:


The white man has never and will never solve our problems other than pretend to do so as they seek to spread their spheres of systemic slavery. Again, the solution for generations to come lies in strengthening our local institutions.



On this, we are in total agreement. the mzungu will only "help" you if he thinks he will benefit more if you 'succeed'... otherwise, he will be pounding you on one had and feeding you with the other... and you know which hand will be more active....

But am sure we are all in agreement that more often than not, we are the ones who have let ourselves down by letting the silver coin dominate our integrity.


@ecstacy, I will agree with you on strengthening local systems, but on the issue of the ocampo6, we are still not prepared to get this trial underway. And time is key (justice delayed, is......). Review what @Miguna says about the system in light of UK and FM resigning from the national security advisory committee...

http://www.capitalfm.co....ns-are-empty-ploys.html
mpobiz
#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:41:19 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Very true. The PM is a disgrace to Africa.

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Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Iborian
#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:23:15 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Very true. The PM is a disgrace to Africa.

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I respectfully disagree!
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