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Uchumi's back to trading at nse
Sober
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:00:00 AM
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Is it posible for this to be done by october?

A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing posibility.
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Layman
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:42:00 AM
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Hot Air!!!! You will wait for not less than two years!

The future is already here!
Sober
#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:19:00 AM
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I was trying to evaluate what price will be used if it was decided to cönvert the price to equity,as suggested if the shareholders are unable to raise the amount.

A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing posibility.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
kamaumash
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:37:00 AM
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yaa,not in the near future until they sort out their financial position first.

invest slowly on a monthly basis dont wait till ati u get millions
Venture
#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:20:00 AM
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Tall order,Layman's prediction of two years time frame realistic. Burnt my fingers and not ready so sink a cent in the debenture. Am sure many wont buy th idea.
Wendz
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:50:00 AM
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I think people are acting on historical financial situation of uchumi and may be the horrifying investment experience they experienced when it was closed down. I must say that uchumi has really changed and their financial situation right now is very good comparatively. Mr. Ciano has really transformed it and the customer service is no longer the same. If i was a shareholder,i wouldnt not hesitate to take up the idea. plus,it will help those holding shares to shed them off when it starts trading and those willing to invest in uchumi get the opportunity. I think if i was a shareholder,i would convince the others to take up the opportunity if it will make the resume trading,then you can offload.

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:58:00 AM
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I wud rather put money (50,000/- minimum) in government bonds at 10% than uchumi at 10%. Less risk.

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Brewer
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:49:00 AM
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I gather the issue to be whether the shareholders will want their share value diluted by government converting debt to equity.

But Ciano's job is not enviable considering the turnaround is based on investor and consumer confidence,the latter of which he has achieved. I sense he is not confident the government will easily convert debt to equity because if the government did that,then it would be a done deal.
Mainat
#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:13:00 AM
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Sober
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:09:00 PM
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There was a plan last year to raise the amount and shares were floated at 5bob each. Anyone willing to sell at this price?

A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing posibility.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
ecstacy
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:53:00 PM
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It's in every shareholders interest that Uchumi resumes trading on the NSE. For this to happen,the latest effort will require shareholders to part with a minimum of Sh3,000 and earn an interest at the rate of 10 per cent per annum. The alternative is dilution of your shares when the government converts the Sh675 million loan it gave Uchumi into equity...
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:58:00 AM
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So... don't give Uchumi money just coz u have an emotional attachment... make a sensible decision!

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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