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Jus Blazin
#31 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:32:54 PM
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It seems like if WR and HK were to go down, they would take very many people with them...
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bwenyenye
#32 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:34:09 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
RAO has always been on either the Hague or refferal, but not defferal.

Deferral and referral are the same.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Referral; the cases are handled in ( referred to) Kenya instead of the ICC.

Deferral; The cases are heard at the ICC but the dates are pushed forward to a later date


Ooops! Did I just comment on a politics thread!!
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ecstacy
#33 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:34:49 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
This about-turn leaves me wondering what ODM is upto. Writing to UNSC was very drastic and showed how divided the Kenyan goverment was. Why did they write and now seem to retreat? Why let the country's political temperature rise to the point of melting for opposing a diferral? Could it be that some people in ODM are thrilled by turbulence in the country?


I wonder how many would entrust the development of this great nation and effectively your investments to such individuals and their ilk?
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nostoppingthis
#34 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:39:47 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
It seems like if WR and HK were to go down, they would take very many people with them...


you are being one sided....all Kenya, all the time... What makes you think the other side wasn't going to go down the same path? Their is a probability that these ODM guys have been persuaded to change their minds since kila mtu will go down...you never know
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McReggae
#35 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:42:16 PM
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It's all politics for these parties:
There is no credible local mechanism at the moment, in eseence these people still have to go to the hague for now, no difference if you ask me, only politics being displayed!!!!
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Jus Blazin
#36 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:44:50 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
It seems like if WR and HK were to go down, they would take very many people with them...


you are being one sided....all Kenya, all the time... What makes you think the other side wasn't going to go down the same path? Their is a probability that these ODM guys have been persuaded to change their minds since kila mtu will go down...you never know

@nostopping, I was talking from the ODM point of view, trying to find out why they would change their stand. Did I get the heading for this topic right?
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Lolest!
#37 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:45:47 PM
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@bwenyenye, my point is, they both lead to the local tribunal option.
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McReggae
#38 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:47:19 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
It seems like if WR and HK were to go down, they would take very many people with them...


you are being one sided....all Kenya, all the time... What makes you think the other side wasn't going to go down the same path? Their is a probability that these ODM guys have been persuaded to change their minds since kila mtu will go down...you never know


.....ukweli kabisa, in terms of spilling the beans, MK should be the mosty scared!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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selah
#39 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:48:26 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:


Referral; the cases are handled in ( referred to) Kenya instead of the ICC.

Deferral; The cases are heard at the ICC but the dates are pushed forward to a later date
Ooops! Did I just comment on a politics thread!!


Defferal-those pushing for this option have the same argument as those pushing for referral (A local competent tribunal)

Politics! NKT

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nostoppingthis
#40 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:51:40 PM
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@Selah, I disagree, those pushing for referral want to fry their own and those pushing for deferral have no intention of achieveing justice...Justice delayed, is justice denied...
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