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mwanahisa
#31 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 11:54:00 AM
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Tuition, I have already stated that the NSE is giving wrong information regarding the split dates. See my earlier posts where I quote the BBK circular issued by the BBK Company Secretary. I got this from the NSE Trading desk and I am not sure why the NSE has not posted it on its website. Barclays also does not seem to have an Investors Page for the Barclays operation.
mwanahisa
#32 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 11:55:32 AM
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Impunity wrote:

@mwanahisa suppose I had 1000 BBK shares, after the split am entitled to 4000 BBK shares after the split.
Suppose I sell 1000 on 1-Jun-2011 will I still remain with my 3000 shares to sell on 13-Jun-11 when the split will be available for sale?d'oh!


YES!
Impunity
#33 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 11:59:29 AM
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@Tuition you are right on 15-Mar-11 being the deadline for share split.
But are you right on pre 14-Mar-11 shareholders selling them at 60 and make a kill and still hope to get the remainder portion of the split?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

mwanahisa
#34 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:02:20 PM
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Brick wall Brick wall
Impunity wrote:
@Tuition you are right on 15-Mar-11 being the deadline for share split.
But are you right on pre 14-Mar-11 shareholders selling them at 60 and make a kill and still hope to get the remainder portion of the split?

Brick wall Brick wall
Impunity
#35 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:03:57 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Impunity wrote:

@mwanahisa suppose I had 1000 BBK shares, after the split am entitled to 4000 BBK shares after the split.
Suppose I sell 1000 on 1-Jun-2011 will I still remain with my 3000 shares to sell on 13-Jun-11 when the split will be available for sale?d'oh!


YES!


@Mwanaisha what will be the share price of BBK on 1-Jun-11?Willl it be (68/4=17) or some 59.50 as of say today's price?

And why do you insist on 31-May-11 as the deadline for this while its clear that the share split will be available for trading on 13-Jun-11 (as per sic!sic!sic! NSE excel sheet)Pray
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#36 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:06:30 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Brick wall Brick wall
Impunity wrote:
@Tuition you are right on 15-Mar-11 being the deadline for share split.
But are you right on pre 14-Mar-11 shareholders selling them at 60 and make a kill and still hope to get the remainder portion of the split?

Brick wall Brick wall


@Mwanaisha Hamadi sasa hii kupiga ukuta header ndio namanisha nini?
Sad Sad
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

mwanahisa
#37 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:25:05 PM
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@Impunity. I am neither the spokesperson for Barclays nor for the NSE, but as I appear to have the information I thought I had better share it, but you can see it is all becoming rather tiring. Thus the knocking my head on the wall.

Let me try again:

1.May-30-2011 - Last Date for share to trade cum-split. As long as you buy the share on any day upto May 30th, you will be entitled to the split.

2.May-31-2011 - Share starts trading ex-split. Presumably, the price will be 1/4th of the price ruling on 30-05-11, but it could be slightly different based on how people interpret the change in the status of the share. If the price is 60 on 30th May, then we would expect the share to trade at 15.

3.June-13-2011 - Split shares become available. If you sold your 1,000 shares on 31st May, on 1st June you would have ZERO shares showing on your CDS account but on June 13th, you will have 3,000 shares. If you had taken no action after 30th May, 3,000 new shares will have been added to your 1,000 on 12-06-11 (after the market closes) and you will have a total of 4,000 shares on 13-06-11.

Hope this is clearer.
mwanahisa
#38 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:32:17 PM
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lovely2010 wrote:
I think its easier to go to nse site they list all announcements....


ACTUALLY THEY DON'T, AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE LATE IN DOING SO.

If I am in doubt regarding the veracity of some information that I think is important in shaping my investment decision, I prefer to go to the source of the information. In this case Barclays (not NSE) is the source. It will only cost a few shillings and a few minutes of your time to call Barclays, rather than make an investment decision that may cost you a lot more later.
Tuition
#39 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:37:33 PM
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Impunity wrote:
@Tuition you are right on 15-Mar-11 being the deadline for share split.
But are you right on pre 14-Mar-11 shareholders selling them at 60 and make a kill and still hope to get the remainder portion of the split?


Taking it that the book closure for the split was 15 March. Then it follows that;
On the 16th March:

Assuming you had 1000 shares of Sh2/- bought @ say 68/-

Your shares wil 1000X4=4000 Shares ofsh 0.5/-

The shares available to you for trading until the crediting of your CDS a/c remains 1000.
My understanding is that if you sell the 1000 Shares now your CDS a/c will sitll be credited with the 3000 additional shares since you sold them ex split. Same as in the case of someone who had shares on the 15Th March and sold them on the 16th March will still get the dividend on the shares sold ex div.

Out of interest, was there another circular from BBK after the one on NSE website dated 22 Feb not in the public dormain? That would be extremely confusing just as the NSE price lists are on this.
I will now wait for the facts to play out b4 another comment on this.
mwanahisa
#40 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 12:50:39 PM
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Tuition wrote:
Out of interest, was there another circular from BBK after the one on NSE website dated 22 Feb not in the public dormain? That would be extremely confusing just as the NSE price lists are on this.
I will now wait for the facts to play out b4 another comment on this.


That is precisely my point. See my earlier posts.
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