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waiter
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:28:24 PM
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hi Wazuans,

Anyone who has experienced Subaru forester?

Fuel consumption
Reliability
Maintenance Cost

I am thinking of getting one soon.
Prime
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:46:40 PM
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There was a time they were so many new foresters on the road but not any more. Might it be a combination of the import duty (refer to the Kra template from their website), Toyota mentality and poor resale value? Let someone shed some light on these machines.
Tommy
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:06:01 PM
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toyota has the largest share in kenyan mkt. with the hard economic times and increased fuel cost this is a car to avoid. the car has a 2ltr engine and is turbo charged.
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MatataMingi
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:09:32 PM
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Hi, I am also looking for a another car. I currently have a 1998 Pajero GLX petrol engine, that i bought new. It has only done 98,000 Kms. I am now looking for a smaller car that uses less fuel.
The Sabaru forester looks good. I have have a few friends who have these and they are happy.
@all. I will appreciate any comments on this car or any alternative.

Thanks.
For Sport
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:13:05 PM
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Fuel consumption: depends on how you maintain your car. Gives as good as it gets. Also depends on whether or not you’re a lead foot. If you’re constantly flooring the accelerator coz of the thrill of the turbo blast, you pay more. Like most cars, most efficient when doing long distances as opposed to start stop town driving.
Reliability? Never had issues.
Servicing: Service with genuine parts and you should be fine. The same goes for normal replacement parts. Again, go genuine and you’ll be fine (especially for parts that go under the hood). You replace and forget.
Cost is relative. Compared with toyota service parts – more expensive but they last.

Yucks:
Space: not so much legroom at the back. I hear the later models improve on this.
Windscreen noise at some speeds; first time you hear it you’ll think something is wrong with the car.
Resale value is low: which isnt a problem if you’re buying to keep.
Abby
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:19:08 PM
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Hi,

Why not Subaru Outback? I guess it is personal preference, I like Outback's looks so much - plus its power - and it is the next thing for me.

Subaru is good; once used to them, I wonder if one can change!

Good luck.

Foz00
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:53:48 PM
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very reliable, genuine parts last and are costly (plugs @ 7,500) but last you 20k-30k km, i think better fuel ratio in Nairobi than on long distance because constantly utilize the turbo.
download a manual for your model, order your parts in advance from UK,UAE etc saves you tons.
simonkabz
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:24:02 PM
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Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.
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faa
#9 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 1:58:04 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?

kalenjinherdsboy
#10 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 2:13:12 PM
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faa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?



Fuel efficiency when compared to a non-turbo engine of similar capacity.
bird_man
#11 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 2:28:03 PM
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kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
faa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?



Fuel efficiency when compared to a non-turbo engine of similar capacity.


Are you serious???
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kalenjinherdsboy
#12 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 3:14:10 PM
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bird_man wrote:
kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
faa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?



Fuel efficiency when compared to a non-turbo engine of similar capacity.


Are you serious???


Turbocharging especially on diesels and small petrol engines is a proven method to improve fuel consumption over similar sized non-turbo engines.

Those are established facts not even worth debating.
faa
#13 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 4:31:10 PM
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kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
bird_man wrote:
kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
faa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?



Fuel efficiency when compared to a non-turbo engine of similar capacity.


Are you serious???


Turbocharging especially on diesels and small petrol engines is a proven method to improve fuel consumption over similar sized non-turbo engines.

Those are established facts not even worth debating.

maybe you can explain how esp for a model like forester 2008/9 model...since i i thought turbocharge also known as forced induction forced more air into your car thus more fuel is needed.thus decreasing fuel economy
Dirty_impreza
#14 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 4:35:28 PM
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bird_man wrote:
kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
faa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?



Fuel efficiency when compared to a non-turbo engine of similar capacity.


Are you serious??


Forester turbo: more boost= more power + faster acceleration. It all depends with your turbo mapping, at low rpms more fuel or high rpms should behave like an N/A.

In matters fuel consumption, it all depends on your right foot. On a good family day an average of 9kms to the L with a disturbing wallet 6-7kms to the L
kalenjinherdsboy
#15 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 6:21:41 PM
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faa wrote:
kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
bird_man wrote:
kalenjinherdsboy wrote:
faa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Turbocharged? I would personally avoid. Iko a buddy of mine amekaangwa na sbr-impreza twin-turbo yake bana.



what are the pro's of having a turbo charged engine?



Fuel efficiency when compared to a non-turbo engine of similar capacity.


Are you serious???


Turbocharging especially on diesels and small petrol engines is a proven method to improve fuel consumption over similar sized non-turbo engines.

Those are established facts not even worth debating.

maybe you can explain how esp for a model like forester 2008/9 model...since i i thought turbocharge also known as forced induction forced more air into your car thus more fuel is needed.thus decreasing fuel economy



Forced induction basically means a greater volume of air gets into the engine resulting in more efficient combustion for a fixed volume of fuel.

Using a reasonably driven 2009 Forester as an example, the 2L turbo should be less thirsty than the 2L non-turbo under similar conditions.

I won't mention the more powerful STI versions because these are tuned more for performance than fuel economy.
guru me
#16 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 7:37:28 PM
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A turbo-equipped car can achieve around about 20 percent better economy over normal gasoline vehicles, and as much as 40 percent for diesel vehicles.

http://www.autotrader.co...aner-more-efficient.jsp

Personally, would go for a turbocharged car over a naturally aspirated car within the same model.

My experience has been that turbo cars are more fuel efficient when driving tamely. When you chose to floor them, which I confess I do a lot (currently own one and cant control myself), the fuel consumption is not so good, but believe it is commensurate to the increase in performance.

I haven't owned my car long enough to know if the turbo increases frequency of breakdowns so will update as we go along.

But I am a performance car aficionado which may not be everyone's cup of tea.

faa
#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:12:24 PM
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guru me wrote:
A turbo-equipped car can achieve around about 20 percent better economy over normal gasoline vehicles, and as much as 40 percent for diesel vehicles.

http://www.autotrader.co...aner-more-efficient.jsp

Personally, would go for a turbocharged car over a naturally aspirated car within the same model.

My experience has been that turbo cars are more fuel efficient when driving tamely. When you chose to floor them, which I confess I do a lot (currently own one and cant control myself), the fuel consumption is not so good, but believe it is commensurate to the increase in performance.

I haven't owned my car long enough to know if the turbo increases frequency of breakdowns so will update as we go along.

But I am a performance car aficionado which may not be everyone's cup of tea.




thanks man.

let us know in due course esp on the turbo maintenance ,fuel consumption and such.

quicksand
#18 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:42:11 PM
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guru me wrote:
A turbo-equipped car can achieve around about 20 percent better economy over normal gasoline vehicles, and as much as 40 percent for diesel vehicles.

http://www.autotrader.co...aner-more-efficient.jsp

Personally, would go for a turbocharged car over a naturally aspirated car within the same model.

My experience has been that turbo cars are more fuel efficient when driving tamely. When you chose to floor them, which I confess I do a lot (currently own one and cant control myself), the fuel consumption is not so good, but believe it is commensurate to the increase in performance.

I haven't owned my car long enough to know if the turbo increases frequency of breakdowns so will update as we go along.

But I am a performance car aficionado which may not be everyone's cup of tea.


If you start penny pinching, utaona cha mtema kuni. Sad Sad
Turbos need discipline, knowledge and meticulousness.

Oil ni synthetic, without exception, and needs changing after a shorter cycle than a naturally aspirated car, otherwise the turbine will start eating itself and sending finely ground metal dust into the engine. So the man at the former PAC said.

When the oxygen sensors go, and they will go because this is Kenya and dust is in abundance, you must go to the parts shop and caugh the thirty something K for a new one without hesitation, or the engine management unit starts recalibrating itself, setting you up for a bigger break and hence cost down the line.

Also, many people overboost, installing larger turbines than the spec of the car prescribes.

And finally, guys have been known to race from sijui Nakuru to Mombasa at full speed, maximum boost. Do this enough times and the heat is too much for the cooling system, material deformation starts to develop, a slow knock or a sudden knock will ensue. Sprint occasionally but also 'coast' (let the turbos spool down) regularly, or use torque to gradually develop speed without screaming the engine, giving it much needed breathers. Ni hayo tu. Happy power driving
Mziza
#19 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 11:07:17 AM
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I too would prefer a turbo model over an NA model especially if the turbo model has a lower cc capacity. There is nothing to fear about the turbo models and if one is conscious with the right foot you can actually get higher mileage than an NA equivalent. People like to say that there is no replacement for displacement which is true depending on purpose however I like to think of turbo vehicles as having power on demand, of course depending on the size of the turbo you have to deal with lag but generally speaking turbos are more fuel efficient as some posters above have indicated.

Maintenance also isn't an issue. You don't have to use synthetic oil for turbos and conventional oil won't necessarily break down a turbo. You just have to be cognizant of the fact that if you use conventional oil you will probably be changing your oil more frequently due to high heat the turbo generates which by the way uses engine oil for cooling. The issue I think many people have is they get addicted to the turbo whoosh and power and take shortcuts to make more power i.e upping the boost with an MBC or EBC without any other supporting changes. Well, that does give you more power but it's fleeting. You'll get problems sooner or later. Another issue is with the quality of gas. If you up the boost and don't increase the quality of fuel then at the very least you'll need to things such as remap your ECU, lower your compression etc.

Generally speaking, a turbo model does not necessarily mean increased costs in fuel consumption, reliability or maintenance. There are other factors within your direct control that will affect those key metrics mentioned.
Cardinal
#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:23:31 AM
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Quite a good discussion

Mid this year i intend to upgrade my car to a subaru forester 2009 model.However, am torn or not sure btn two models one is a turbo - 2.0XT PLATINUM SELECTION and the other is a 2.0 XS PLATINUM SELECTION - i guess with no turbo.

Which of this two models would you advise me to import.. ?

Thanks
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