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Marende gives verdict
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#111 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:17:00 PM
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We all seem to agree on one thing,Mr.marende did his best to save the situation.The prescription kenyans needed most and just on time. However its clear that the measure was temporary,and in that spirit meant to appease ours gods. The wisdom of solomon call for decisive action and nothing else. Its doesnt call for dividing the baby into halves nor does it stipulate that solomon takes the child! Marende did the latter and thats why to me he scores a zero for failure but 100% for curing the symptoms.
ecstacy
#112 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:17:00 PM
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If you thought 2007 was bad,as Kriegler said,it will be like Christmas as compared to 2012 as long as we keep deferring making hard but necessary decisions.
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#113 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:33:00 PM
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...every time i consider the I get a different interpretation - and in sum i do not see if what Marende did solved our problem as a country; and using the analogy of solomon in the good book this is why;

like Solomon i see kenya as the baby under dispute and when the question was put to the two mothers(read principals) of wheather to split this baby(kenya) - in this case both women (RAO & MK) Replied in callous unison -Kata ! so Solomon looked hard in disbelief - asked for afew days until this Tuesday- when the women went on to the streets now arguing on who is to get the right side or the left side as per the coalition agreement of sharing 50:50,- it occured to marende that maybe noe of the two women was the actual mother of kenya as non needed the country alive,so marende chose to hold onto the baby until the another mother is found-

which brings me to the next question,for how long should we kid ourselves that the colition will hold? the only to get another mother is to have mrende hold onto the baby- as we constitute an independent electral commision,redo our constituency borders,then ammend the constitution to either have a presidential system or parliamentary one the dissolve parliament and let the baby-kenya choose a mother who cares.

Having said that -We need to critically look at where marendes ruling leaves us! - are we better off now? or worse off! the ruling undermines the presidency,it decimates the constitution,it underscores the fact that leaders will continue to use violence or the threat of violence(which ever is worse to lord over whatever institutions - here i think we are worse off. -

i feel we have been collectively deceived that we very vulnerable to return to violence as happened in 07/08,i think we have learnt enough but some leaders want us to be afraid!

-my thoughts

...in dollar$ and cents the only score to keep!
Fundaah
#114 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:37:00 PM
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Ecstacy et al .

If you were Marende,what would you have done,given the circumstances?

Like Kivuitu,say it's Kalonzo or Raila and let the country burn now? Why worry about 2012 when you are not guaranteed to get there?

The underlying issues need to be addressed systematically,at least when we have a country called Kenya in the first place.

Tell us what you would have done and at the same time ensure the shortterm stability of the patient (Kenya)?


I mean fundamental analysis,you get me?

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ecstacy
#115 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:42:00 PM
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As speaker,uphold the law. The rest is a price that has to be payed for the long term good of the nation. Following the rule of law can never be made optional.
Fundaah
#116 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:50:00 PM
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Ecstacy,the law is made for the people not the other way round.

I mean fundamental analysis,you get me?

Fundamental analysis of a business involves analyzing its financial statements and health,its management and competitive advantages,and its competitors
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ecstacy
#117 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:53:00 PM
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You miss the point again. The law made for the good of the people has not changed. Partisan political interests have. That is not sufficient in itself to suspend the rule of law.
The General
#118 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:08:00 PM
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@ 254,ecstacy,smoothie,Mr Tea

You share the same views.

What is common amongst the 4 of you? Are you pals?


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Brewer
#119 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:13:00 PM
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Ngalaka spot on!

Marende has the role of interpreting the Standing Orders- the court will not do that for parliament. About the constitution and the national accord,he will not be interpreting them,he will be applying/following their letter and spirit. He does not have the luxury of postponing a decision in parliament on the pretext that it is not his role to interpret the law. Kazi yake ni kufuata sheria vile anaifeel. Effectively he interpreted the law -wrongly and mischievously- but was clever to say he was doing so for purposes of parliament alone.

My goodness gracious someone in SK still thinks Kibaki and raila are equal under the accord!
Ngalaka
#120 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:13:00 PM
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And why would any ruffian fight if the ruling as based on law is not in their favour.

Who'll drive sense into people,- that in any contest there must be winners and losers.

If it happens to be you,you take it and live to fight another day.

You dont shout fire just because things have gone against you.

Staarabikeni jameni.

Things arent always the way they look like
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