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International Evidence Rules to fry Hague Six.
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kadonye
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:56:08 PM
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Lawyer Paul Mwangi(todays Nation pg 28) gives us an interesting comparison of evidence rules in magistrates courts vis a vis in international courts. In international courts, a prosecutor can even present hearsay as evidence and it will be admitted. Witnesses can be inconsistent without raising a red flag. The six are in deep trouble! I see a minimum of 3 convictions.
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vinii
#2 Posted : Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:43:23 PM
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kadonye wrote:
Lawyer Paul Mwangi(todays Nation pg 28) gives us an interesting comparison of evidence rules in magistrates courts vis a vis in international courts. In international courts, a prosecutor can even present hearsay as evidence and it will be admitted. Witnesses can be inconsistent without raising a red flag. The six are in deep trouble! I see a minimum of 3 convictions.
i have just read the pieace @ ka small, the threhhold is indeed low
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Robinhood
#3 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 8:28:39 AM
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I continue to hope for six convictions. My hopes are now raised.
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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masukuma
#4 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 11:15:45 AM
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its a kangaroo court! no wonder someone said its Europe's Guantánamo Bay.
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simonkabz
#5 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 11:26:49 AM
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Some wana nishi are supporting the kangaroo court for various, viable/controversial reasons. 1. Raira 2. Tribal 3. End of impunity (totally fallacious since electral violence forms a tiny n seldom percentage of impunity whereas the major form-corruption- will still b with us) 4. Retribution...probably to the wrong pple since, I strongly beleive, the main culprits roam free. Anyway, time will tell.
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masukuma
#6 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 11:46:14 AM
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with such a low threshold on burden of proof - How did Ocampo mess up with Thomas Lubanga's case?
Shouldn't they hire the vioja mahakamani prosecutor - he has a 100% track record Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

with such a low threshold on burden of proof - whats their punishment? Kneeling down at the corner of the class or picking littered papers?
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B.Timer
#7 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 12:34:55 PM
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I tend to think that this matter is taken out of context.

What some may perceive as a low threshold, is actually an approach meant to cut down on red tape - technicalities that do not always serve JUSTICE.

However I believe evidence will have to be convincing.

May be what passes here is that the Judges are given a lot more leeway to decide what to accept and what not to.

In an international court this is necessary otherwise it would be practically immpossible to sustain any case.
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McReggae
#8 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 12:53:28 PM
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Thimioni, below I quote a friend:
"Today in Naivasha, I had a drink wth a military doctor friend of mine who narrated how he attended to PEV revenge attack victims of rape in 2008. Most of the women had not just been gang raped, but had their vaginas sealed with super glue afterwards, so they couldnt even pass urine! Some died! In my entire life, I've never heard of a worse violation than this!!!

.....for you such people yo still think would not like the O6 to got to the hague????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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simonkabz
#9 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 1:44:00 PM
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@mcr, did the scumheads get such orders fm the H6?? Going by such emotive examples we are thus crucifying the wrong pple!
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McReggae
#10 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 2:00:14 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
@mcr, did the scumheads get such orders fm the H6?? Going by such emotive examples we are thus crucifying the wrong pple!


.....The 06 should prove otherwise, huh!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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