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DTB Diamond Trust Bank FY2010 results
Aguytrying
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:06:34 PM
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Where are the mafans wa dtb. These are amazing results not the 100 percent everyone was expecting, but look at the bonus. I almost did a backflip- which i cant do. Guru u were right about the bonus. Results have come out at a bad time. I think the share will hold. Whether i sell for capital gains or not and get the bonus. Win win.
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selah
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:30:55 PM
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I think DTB should explain where that 'Other Income' came from. Such a leap is quite interesting.I have looked at the assets and nothing seems to have been written off.

Please can someone explain in layman terms how they made that Income.
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mwanahisa
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:34:05 PM
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selah wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
Hurrah for DTK.

Coop - Not so good!


I think COOP has done very well especially reducing its non performing Loan exposure by about 80% thats a good thing.

DTB growth was greatly helped by other incomes which last year was too low.

Once Coop start expanding into south sudan it will be a great stock.



There is a lot more business (and profits) in Kenya relative to the other neighbouring countries. Moving into a new territory does not necessarily result in a big increase in profits. E.g. Equity Bank made less than 5% of its net profits from S.Sudan while they made a big loss in Uganda. Same case certainly goes for KCB's greenfield operations in Uganda and Rwanda. Having said that I still believe Regional expansion is the way to go. However, we should not expect an overnight increase in profits as a consequence.
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:34:50 PM
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@selah - Could be bond trading income but not specified since CBK does not require breakdown. I expect this will change in future years.

The Annual Report may have more - when it is released.
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mwanahisa
#15 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:37:47 PM
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selah wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
Hurrah for DTK.

Coop - Not so good!


I think COOP has done very well especially reducing its non performing Loan exposure by about 80% thats a good thing.

DTB growth was greatly helped by other incomes which last year was too low.

Once Coop start expanding into south sudan it will be a great stock.



There is a lot more business (and profits) in Kenya relative to the other neighbouring countries. Moving into a new territory does not necessarily result in a big increase in profits. E.g. Equity Bank made less than 5% of its net profits from S.Sudan while they made a big loss in Uganda. Same case certainly goes for KCB's greenfield operations in Uganda and Rwanda. Having said that I still believe Regional expansion is the way to go. However, we should not expect an overnight increase in profits as a consequence.
selah
#16 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:38:40 PM
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@mwanahisa I think COOP strategy of co-owning its SS operation with the government will give it an upper hand given that pple tend to be loyal to brands thats are locally owned.
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mwanahisa
#17 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:42:59 PM
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selah wrote:
@mwanahisa I think COOP strategy of co-owning its SS operation with the government will give it an upper hand given that pple tend to be loyal to brands thats are locally owned.


No doubt about that. My contention is that even if Coop goes and makes 400 million like Equity did in 2010 that will only be about 10% of total profits which will not change its outlook materially.

I like Coop, but in my view it has underperformed its peers - Equity and KCB, hence I would only buy it at comparable PEs - higher than KCB but lower than Equity Bank.
Agra
#18 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:49:26 PM
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The results are very impressive but i feel its already factored by the price of 135 its a shame that a bonus cannot even excite this mkt.
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QD
#19 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:56:14 PM
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DTB best result going by all the parameters . their loans and advances fully covered by the customer deposits with a surplus which can be invested else where i.e. in the regional expansion given also the low leveraging and high earnings retention.

Long term holding.
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VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:57:50 PM
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QD wrote:
their loans and advances fully covered by the customer deposits
Most Kenyan banks have the same deposit/loan profile. Nothing extraordinary about it.
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