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Up against Maternal Deaths
Pastor M
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:21:52 AM
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http://ns1.kenyanlist.co...01_9_20110215100056.pdf

http://tumechoka.blogspo...mmaculata-hospital.html

When a woman dies from pregnancy or childbirth, it is not just a personal tragedy, but proof of how shamefully little many countries have done to tackle maternal mortality-Daily Nation September 20, 2010.

The attached experiences are so terrifying (also check the comments from people)...I m wondering how many mothers,husbands go through the above in different hospitals in Kenya...Sad is this supposed to happen in this days and time....How can we stop this....
Snazzy
#2 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:24:21 AM
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I lost a friend whom i had known since primary school at one of the "best" hospital in the country while she delivered a baby girl who will be 3 years in June.It was one of the saddest days of my entire life,being a mother too i couldn't believe she wouldn't hold,cuddle or kiss this baby she had carried for 9 months.She bled to death because the doctors could do nothing to save her.
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muganda
#3 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:53:19 PM
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@Snazzy, very sad to hear. In Kenya we accept it as fate. Perhaps the only thing more sad is the other doctors around - pediatrician, head nurse - may actually think the gynaecologist was negligent. But there is a code of silence.

Maybe the first step is consequences!
For Sport
#4 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:59:56 PM
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muganda wrote:
@Snazzy, very sad to hear. In Kenya we accept it as fate. Perhaps the only thing more sad is the other doctors around - pediatrician, head nurse - may actually think the gynaecologist was negligent. But there is a code of silence.

Maybe the first step is consequences!


They used to say that whenever a woman goes into labour in this part of the world, a grave opens. Sad that this is still true here. And perharps our lax laws and that code of silence. What’s the worst consequence a medical professional has faced because of negligence? Most people do not bother to take thsese matters further - maybe because of this culture of attributing life and death to God's will. Have heard way too many horror stories about preventable deaths. Giving birth should not be this big a risk.
Ms Mkenya
#5 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:57:19 PM
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Its sad to read such horrifying stories. But let me stress here that having a specific gynae taking care of you during pregnancy and delivery is v important. Should the hosp also refuse to do something, demand attention, scream the place down or something. They'l blame the child birth process eventually. Anyway, on a serious note, its best to keep money aside and see a specific gynae. The buck stops with him or her. Unfortunately though, not everyone can afford that.
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Shak
#6 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:12:32 PM
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@Snazzy, please name this hospital that's supposed to be one of the best so that we can be well informed as we make our choices
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#7 Posted : Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:22:30 PM
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About having a specific gynae...I have friends who lost their child because the hospital the wife was admitted to refused to take any action until their gynae arrived.
famooz
#8 Posted : Sunday, March 06, 2011 9:58:50 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
Its sad to read such horrifying stories. But let me stress here that having a specific gynae taking care of you during pregnancy and delivery is v important. Should the hosp also refuse to do something, demand attention, scream the place down or something. They'l blame the child birth process eventually. Anyway, on a serious note, its best to keep money aside and see a specific gynae. The buck stops with him or her. Unfortunately though, not everyone can afford that.


I am afraid that this probably sounds good but other than affordability,having own doc could also open doors for disaster esp. in hospitals where the consultant gets a share of the money raised from a delivery or an operation/CS.Can you believe that in one of the hospitals- a leading hosp-an intern had to step in to do a CS because a consultant was held up in another hosp........and that was not all,the intern had to wait for the consultant to come and stitch her up ....it was the only way the consultant could bill the said hospital :(
Pastor M
#9 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 8:24:03 AM
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Shak wrote:
@Snazzy, please name this hospital that's supposed to be one of the best so that we can be well informed as we make our choices


―huyu ako na damu mingi sana, wacha im-wagike‘.can you imagine a doc saying that...Name this hospitals....
Dash
#10 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 9:02:12 AM
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you should name these hospitals and consultants,if nothing, its a step towards curbing this. They should not be protected. Name and shame
Wendz
#11 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 10:21:28 AM
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By the way, these are no longer stories... i used to "hear" them.... now i experience them through close friends. A friend of mine lost his wife when delivering twins... luckily the babies survived... but you can imagine what the man had to go through.... two of my colleagues' wives lost their children and one almost lost the wife during child birth.... these, in what we call "best" hospitals...... In one of the situations, the gyna even admitted (though not directly) that she didnt really know what to do next..... they had to change gyna in the middle of treatment.... When you are through with childbearing and you are still safe or your wife is still alive and the children are ok, you thank God!
McReggae
#12 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 10:30:32 AM
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Chilling stories there!!!
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Ms Mkenya
#13 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 11:30:21 AM
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famooz wrote:


I am afraid that this probably sounds good but other than affordability,having own doc could also open doors for disaster esp. in hospitals where the consultant gets a share of the money raised from a delivery or an operation/CS.Can you believe that in one of the hospitals- a leading hosp-an intern had to step in to do a CS because a consultant was held up in another hosp........and that was not all,the intern had to wait for the consultant to come and stitch her up ....it was the only way the consultant could bill the said hospital :(


That is when i said, acting up helps. And being with a specific doc, you will have discussed modes of delivery before. At the end of the day, you can be excused because of the process.

But i strongly believe God intervenes in many many situations. Ni maombi tu!
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Elder
#14 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 1:24:30 PM
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A few weeks back a lawyer gave birth to 'a bouncing baby boy' at the Nairobi Hospital. Unfortunately she did not survive the delivery. I was later told by a friend of her family that she underwent a C-Section and it was seemingly not done properly as she bled to death.

However, it is hard to blame hospitals for maternal deaths as in most cases the women are admitted by their own doctors. In a place like the Nairobi Hospital and Aga Khan most people I know have been admitted by their own doctors their with the hospitals only providing the facilities and support staff.

My advise to those considering deliveries is to have their own Obstetrician-Gynecologist. Forget about a Gynecologist only. You need an Obstetrician and you can get doctors who are both. When we got our Elderling for example it was way before the EDD and deep in the night so it was hard getting our Obs-Gyn. The hospital (actually the midwives) asked if they could call any other doctor who was available and which they did but fortunately our doc arrived just in time (he later told me that he lives about 2 minutes away from the hospital).
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innairobi
#15 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 2:33:09 PM
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The other day, was seeing the cost of that small city council maternity facility in Kimathi estate where the cost was about 20/-? So one healthy woman goes to a first class hospital where the cost is 100k+ and another goes to this other city council facility. Yet, the 100k+ delivery might leave as a corpse while the one paying ~20/- comfortably walks out with the baby. Enyewe, you can only do your best but just pray like crazy that everything will be fine.
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Snazzy
#16 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 4:36:16 PM
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My friend was at Nairobi Hospital.

Though there are great doctors out there,there are some spoiling it for the good ones.My advice for any mother to be is always do a background check on any one you are going to trust with your life.And for any fathers out there, be an active part of the whole process.
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McReggae
#17 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 4:45:02 PM
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Above all prayers are very important, moreso when I think of all those women giving birth at their homes in rural kenya!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
jguru
#18 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 6:35:07 PM
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The audited number of maternal deaths in Kenya in 2009 were 3,705. That means close to 4,000 pregnant women, carry their child to term (or 28 weeks) and end up dying in the process of giving birth to the child.

It is shocking too to read the figures on the number of fresh still births i.e. the number of children that die during child birth. 7,479! 7,479 women carry their child to term (or 28 weeks), go into a hospital to deliver and they come out empty handed!

In Kenya, only 555,632 out of 1,653,985 deliveries are conducted by a skilled health attendant in a health facility.

Reversing the Trends
The Second National Health Sector Strategic Plan
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July 2009–June 2010
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jguru
#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:32:21 AM
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I will not quote the Maternal deaths occurring in health facilities, Maternal deaths audited, and Fresh stillbirths in the health facility from the AOP 6 (July 2010-June 2011). The figures are incorrect. For example, It is WRONG to state that 2,374 fresh still births occurred out of 1,749,372 deliveries between July 2009 and June 2010. Equally wrong that the calculated maternal mortality ratio is now 46 per 100,000 live births.


Wazua people, download the AOP6 and find out what the Ministry of Health planned for July 2010-June 2011. Astonishing! Huge budget deficit yet they plan to spend 30M on "purchase of movable dustproof racks for registration and salaries sections" and 150M on "Leadership and management training conducted at district level for 1000 staff".


http://www.publichealth....amp;gid=20&Itemid=94
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For Sport
#20 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2011 2:11:51 PM
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whatever figure we have, it is too high.

standard newspaper 10/03/2011:
"At least 21 women die daily from child-birth related complications in Kenya."

Seriously? Think about the families left without a mother.
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