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Jamani
#81 Posted : Sunday, March 06, 2011 2:58:52 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
James Mwangi was on telly jana saying how he is thinking of how to replicate the Equity model in Kenya's mortgage market. His vision is to see a person earning 20K accessing a mortgage. My 1st thought was SUBPRIME HERE WE COME.

Imagine the kind of profits Equity would make!


Thats the start of a local economic crises,
jerry
#82 Posted : Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:36:44 PM
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Jamani wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
James Mwangi was on telly jana saying how he is thinking of how to replicate the Equity model in Kenya's mortgage market. His vision is to see a person earning 20K accessing a mortgage. My 1st thought was SUBPRIME HERE WE COME.

Imagine the kind of profits Equity would make!


Thats the start of a local economic crises,

Is he (J. Mwangi) to offer mortgage thro' HF where EB owns close to 25% or via EB itself. With 5% ownership of EB and over 20yrs at the helm, why can't he retire? He can try governor of (is it) Murang'a county.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
youcan'tstopusnow
#83 Posted : Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:20:18 PM
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Kwanini aretire? Kwani kuna term limits?
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#84 Posted : Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:40:00 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Kwanini aretire? Kwani kuna term limits?


Subprime mortgages:
So far, financial institutions have been careful about who they lend to to ensure that people take mortgages they can afford to repay. The US problems were partly caused by greedy bankers who were hawking loans to all and sundry irrespective of ability to repay.
If his dream of lending to people who are on a salary of 20 k is realized without waiting for policy adjustments in the housing industry to deal with all the problems facing the housing industry like
- Speculation on land (which someone here has said accounts for 40%) of the cost
- Infrastructure development (which developers are now forced to do)
- Financing structure
the default rate in such loans will go UP. Other thing he said is EB makes its money on large volumes. Wondering how this would play out on the property market. “Fuel” a construction boom in that segment of the market to make sure maaaaany affordable houses are built, and then lend out to people on a 20k salary. Can only lead to irresponsible lending. Read somewhere that “mortgage” literally translated is something like “death lock”. Sure trigger to problems in that industry.
Read the thread on the “housing bubble” for lots of speculation about a burst.
VituVingiSana
#85 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 8:25:01 AM
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This is not a public office...
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Wa_ithaka
#86 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 9:23:53 AM
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Mortgages sio mkate.
Equity will burn if its not careful
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bird_man
#87 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 10:24:05 AM
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How can people draw so many conclusions on sub-prime yet EB has not published the entire proposed plan?
Don't be so pessimistic!
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#88 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 11:45:01 AM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
Mortgages sio mkate.
Equity will burn if its not careful

It's common sense that Equity do not have the experience that HF & S&L have in the Mortgage industry.
One sure way of going to the grave is for Equity to overlook its sister firm HF and take the plunge!
They have to stick to their core business, otherwise known as FOCUS!
@SufficientlyP
moneydust
#89 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 12:28:46 PM
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Those who are quick to criticize JMwangi proposal should know better...this man has single handedly revolutinized the banking industry.
Many banks in years gone by couldnt imagine life without exorbitant ledger fees...some to this day still cant..equity came and changed all that.
Going by his past achievements..we owe him atleast a chance to explain his idea which in my view is welcome. owning a house should be part of every kenyan dreams.
This is currently a mirage given the high cost of houses plus the high incomes required for one to obtain a mortgage...
mwanahisa
#90 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 12:38:18 PM
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Underestimate Equity Bank (JM) at your own peril. HF is already in their stable so they can draw on that experience.

If you read the BD story on the proposed British American Investments listing, it may give you some insights into some of the thinking going on in the Equity Bank/Housing Finance/ British American Investments consortium. I would not bet against these guys, UNLESS I have incontrovertible proof that they will fail and that will be pretty hard to come by.
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