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What is NTV upto on Uhuru?
Njung'e
#11 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 2:24:20 AM
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Kihii could mean;
1.Uncircumcised.
2.Son.
3.Push-over/easy-go.

Whatever UK meant and without seeming to support his sentiments,one thing is certain.Baks was at the river many years back and neither is he UK's son.That leaves one possible meaning unless we want to take it literally.My two Zim cents though.
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#12 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 6:17:55 AM
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Although uhuru of late seems to be a very bitter person, i think the press should desist from creating news and stick to reporting. What is their agenda?
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#13 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 7:20:19 AM
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@All,as Njunge has pointed out,litteraly it could mean any of the three.Im also kiuk and sometimes my dad calls our last born "kihii giakwa" yet he is circumcised.It really depends on who is saying it,to who etc.And i guess this is with all mother tongue languages.NTV should not interprete stuff in thier own ways . . . .maybe they should just report bass!Also national leaders should avoid use of mother tongue when talking about national issues to avoid such cases.My 2 cents.
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Robinhood
#14 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 7:28:06 AM
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Why do some people find it necessary to explain away the obvious? When UK called some other leader a 'kimundu' guys were falling over themselves trying to explain what he did NOT mean. Now he uses the 'Kihii', word and the see no evil hear no evil crowd are busy explaining away the sad reality. The fact is that UK has gaffed these two times. Period.
NTV are innocent.
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#15 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:05:00 AM
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Robinhood wrote:
Why do some people find it necessary to explain away the obvious? When UK called some other leader a 'kimundu' guys were falling over themselves trying to explain what he did NOT mean. Now he uses the 'Kihii', word and the see no evil hear no evil crowd are busy explaining away the sad reality. The fact is that UK has gaffed these two times. Period.
NTV are innocent.


What we have here in this forum are politicians. Not any different from Esther Murugi.
petro08
#16 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:05:27 AM
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Robinhood wrote:
Why do some people find it necessary to explain away the obvious? When UK called some other leader a 'kimundu' guys were falling over themselves trying to explain what he did NOT mean. Now he uses the 'Kihii', word and the see no evil hear no evil crowd are busy explaining away the sad reality. The fact is that UK has gaffed these two times. Period.
NTV are innocent.


Robinhood. We are not saying Uhuru was right. And no one has suggested that in the above posts. I guess many agree that Leaders should be responsible when they talk. We have in the past heard irresponsible talk from Baks, Raila, Ruto, Orengo, Uhuru Nyongo and most of our politicians in Kenya. And if all Kenyan's are forthright, all these do not qualify to be Presidential materials.

What we are saying i guess here is NTV is adding fuel to a fire. The thing is, most non Kikuyu speaking guys only know one meaning of the word. Now, that word has several meanings as Njunge has pointed it out. And as I have also indicated above, if you read the whole sentence, it clearly does not refer to un-circumcised. If you are not a native Kikuyu speaker, please do not insist for a certain meaning to come out. It will never come out that way.(at least for the Kikuyu native speakers)
2 Miles
#17 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:19:14 AM
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Please Wazua colleagues, lets be honest and sincere with ourselves. If Ruto makes a statement in Kalenjin, I would want it interpreted correctly for me because I am a kiuk. And I guess every1else would wnt the same.

So it puzzles me that people in these forum opt to interprete Uhuru's comments in a favourable way, just because they support him. Lets stop being sycophants. We will end up being just like our idiot MPigs!!!!!!!1

Uhuru's comments were correctly interpreted by NTV. Forget the many meanings of the word. From his anger and the way the crowd was cheering , its not so hard to guess what he intendend to mean when using that word. Furthermore , he didn't stop there. He went further to ask whether Hague belongs to some people's mother.

So , you guys complaining about NTV misinterpreting his comments on 'Kihii' , why aren't you reprimanding him for making the second comment about Hague?????? Your not any better!
si_cheki_ovyo_ovyo
#18 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:25:25 AM
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petro08 wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
Why do some people find it necessary to explain away the obvious? When UK called some other leader a 'kimundu' guys were falling over themselves trying to explain what he did NOT mean. Now he uses the 'Kihii', word and the see no evil hear no evil crowd are busy explaining away the sad reality. The fact is that UK has gaffed these two times. Period.
NTV are innocent.


Robinhood. We are not saying Uhuru was right. And no one has suggested that in the above posts. I guess many agree that Leaders should be responsible when they talk. We have in the past heard irresponsible talk from Baks, Raila, Ruto, Orengo, Uhuru Nyongo and most of our politicians in Kenya. And if all Kenyan's are forthright, all these do not qualify to be Presidential materials.

What we are saying i guess here is NTV is adding fuel to a fire. The thing is, most non Kikuyu speaking guys only know one meaning of the word. Now, that word has several meanings as Njunge has pointed it out. And as I have also indicated above, if you read the whole sentence, it clearly does not refer to un-circumcised. If you are not a native Kikuyu speaker, please do not insist for a certain meaning to come out. It will never come out that way.(at least for the Kikuyu native speakers)


Well well well, isnt it a mystery that the rest of kenyans are only getting to know the other non-derogatory meanings of that word now?

Come on. Stop being a spin doctor for someone who does not know you or even care about you. Let him carry his own cross.

You dont have to defend him just because he comes from the same tribe as yourself.
mukiha
#19 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:46:01 AM
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@2 Miles; I like your honesty.

In Political Kikuyu, when use the word "KIHII", you simply mean uncircumcised boy.... often a derogatory reference to Raila Odinga.

In ordinary Kikuyu, when you ask some one "Ureceria ndi kihii giaku uthake nanii?"

What you mean is: "Do you think I am your uncircumcised boy to play with?"

And when you are introduced by your father to his age-mates, he may say "Giki ni kihii giakwa" meaning, this is my son.

So, my interpretation of the Uhuru sentence is "Do they think Kibaki is an uncircumcised boy to play with?"

I can't see any other meaning.
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#20 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:48:11 AM
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Waseni (tigai)! NTV interprets everytime these jingas use their native tongue to hurl insults. When Sally was calling our national flag her traffic flag, we were told.

Everybody who PROPERLY understands Kikuyu and is not a politician's bootlicker (or sychophant to be polite) knows what Uhuru meant in the context and temper he said it in. And there are two possible meanings. Do they think Kibaki is their uncircumcised boy who can't think for themselves? OR. Do they think Kibaki is like their uncircumcised boy?
The second statement "kai Hague kuri kwa nyina" was even worse imho. Is their Hague their mother's home? Unless you are a bhang smoker, you do not bring anybody's mother into your anger.

Uhuru is an idiot and can't be a leader in this country. The one good thing he can do for this country of ours is to give back some of the massive land his father stole.
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