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the deal
#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:43:27 PM
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Foreigners are Selling...Wazuans are thinking of rushing in...What a Divergence
Kenya Airways (KQNA.NR: Quote), one of the leading carriers in Africa, slipped 3.55 percent to 40.75 shillings a share.

"We saw a lot of selling on KQ mainly by foreign investors, who interpreted the carrier's third quarter performance results as below target and the effect of raising fuel prices which has a large effect on its costs," said Waweru.

Kenya Airways reported on Monday a 9 percent rise in passenger numbers. [ID:nLDE71D19L]
Genghis Khan
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:09:28 PM
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Am one of those ppl who got in @ 63bob kitambo. It was purely speculative, i didn't understand the metrics & i still don't. I paid the "price" as i watched it go to the floor, i salvaged some money by averaging down but made major losses overall.

If there are any value prospectors in the hse, these are the cons i'm looking as i consider touching it again @. Any advise on why someone would buy? What price?

1. Highly competive & price sensitive (global & regional) consumer market.

2. Volatile market; very sensitive to consumer finances, politics etc.

3. Low margins and huge overheads (including rising oil prices - what is the current and future hedging situation and plan)

4. I have not seen any major innovations / business aggression from management recently. Compare mobile comm and banking markets. Where will value / growth come from?
Someone correct me if i'm wrong: Management have overstayed and are in a comfort zone... this wouldn't happen in a multinational like Barclays... when next do we see double digit growth?
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:39:13 PM
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Does Naikuni have too high a public profile that KLM is afraid of a backlash to replace him with another CEO?

Of course, I would like a CEO who understands the business so not just anyone...

Of course, GoK is to blame as well. Airlines depend on bilateral agreements i.e. when you fly to new countries/destinations, you require agreements between both countries.

Now... kalonzo has time for shuttle diplomacy but not for negotiating/cajoling the countries for new routes.

KQ took years to get into Angola. To protect TAAG, Angola offered a codeshare [split revenues/profits with TAAG even though KQ does all the flying] for only 3 flights/week. KQ wanted 5 flights/week.
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the deal
#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:53:18 PM
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Time to be worried as a KQ shareholder, minus the domestic pax numbers...pax only grew by 3.8 percent...yet the price of oil has shot up by 25 percent...lets wait for the 4Q numbers...growth in the 2H might be negative...i will dig more.
Govmusili
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:13:49 AM
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Very gloom indeed, buying more doesnt seem to be the solution! Even if its averaging down y buy something with little prospects wouldn't it be better to buy somethin more hopeful to help cover our KQ losses???
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#16 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:48:40 AM
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Govmusili wrote:
Very gloom indeed, buying more doesnt seem to be the solution! Even if its averaging down y buy something with little prospects wouldn't it be better to buy somethin more hopeful to help cover our KQ losses???

**i fill you brother,taugh times**
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#17 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:50:42 AM
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Govmusili wrote:
Very gloom indeed, buying more doesnt seem to be the solution! Even if its averaging down y buy something with little prospects wouldn't it be better to buy somethin more hopeful to help cover our KQ losses???

**i fill you brother,taugh times**
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