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Kalonzo's shuttle diplomacy was in vain
anasazi
#11 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:15:00 PM
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I have always said, sovereignty is only valuable to us if our leaders respect that even the citizens are partakers of this sovereignty! Our leaders should cease and desist from this muppetry.

It's not a word to be thrown around to protect the interests of a select few while the rest of Kenyans suffer for their ill advised decisions! No way! If lack of sovereignty is what will bring justice to mwananchi, so be it!
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TAZ
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:16:17 PM
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anasazi wrote:
I have always said, sovereignty is only valuable to us if our leaders respect that even the citizens are partakers of this sovereignty! Our leaders should cease and desist from this muppetry.

It's not a word to be thrown around to protect the interests of a select few while the rest of Kenyans suffer for their ill advised decisions! No way! If lack of sovereignty is what will bring justice to mwananchi, so be it!


d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Kwani you work for Wazua, i think i just saw a similar post from them a few minutes ago
masukuma
#13 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:17:03 PM
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the sage wrote:
Njore wrote:
Some of us, sadly, have a shallow way of looking at issues. The integrity and sovereignty of our country is unquantifiable. When lobbying, you do not expect everybody to agree with you or buy into your idea. Nonetheless, you have to do it. You need to know that much more money will need to be spent to fortify our case and our position -- our nation's integrity is in the hands of Ocampo. Having received the support of AU, China and Russia at the preliminary stages of shuttle diplomacy is no mean achievement. We have to sustain the momentum in order to have more support at the UN Security Council. Would you trust the Americans? Have you seen the way they have dumped Hosni Mubarak after protecting their interests in the Middle East for over 30 years? Your memory must be very brief if you have already forgotten the Wikileaks touching on Kenya. We are yet to hear and read much more!

Integrity!! A country that cannot even house its own IDPs and feed its people is anything but sovereign.


so on top of all our issues that we can't do we add can't prosecute our own thugs!!
HII JINA CAN'T NDIO ADUI!!

so the western nations can feed themselves, and feed us, house themselves and house us, prosecute their thugs and prosecute ours .... any yet we are very proud of it and shout down anyone who attempts to do any of the above.

P.s sovereignty adds dignity not the otherway round.
SHAME ON PEOPLE WHO LIKEN US TO CONGO!! even RWANDA has a tribunal in Africa - how much so sisi?
Kwanza US should join ICC not determine kesi za wengine.

just coz your house has one bed and that bed has bedbugs - does not give your neighbor the right to ask your wife to sleep on his bed- AIBU!!!
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simonkabz
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:18:06 PM
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If any of the Ocampo 6 is jailed in foreign land, a seed of permanent hatred n open tribal intolerance will hav been sown. Lets face the truth, pple will never 4get their own son rotting in some foreign soil. RAO may NEVER be 4given by a large section of the Kenyan society. As evident in parliament, the ICC issue has taken a POLITICAL n in turn, a TRIBAL dimention. Let me emphasize, ICC saga cant, and WONT auger well 4 Kenya!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
masukuma
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:18:56 PM
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yet people cheer statements like "Integrity!! A country that cannot even house its own IDPs and feed its people is anything but sovereign."

SHAME ON YOU to the Nth Term!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
2 Miles
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:21:43 PM
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GOD HELP US.

This talk about integrity & sovereignty is just sickening. With the IDP situation , the drought situation and many other welfare issues , we can afford to spend Kshs. 31.5 million on shuttle diplomacy???? What these leaders should work on is their integrity first. Idiots!!!!

That money can be used to purchase the maize in the north rift & distribute it where there is drought. Thats what governments , which care about their intergrity & sovereignty do.

Why does Kalonzo ( Minister for Home Affairs ) assemble all IDPs at Kasarani & explain to them how fruitful his trips have been. And how other African leaders are taking this matter of our integrity and sovereignty with utmost concern. They will really clap for him and urge him to double his efforts.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#17 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:34:11 PM
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The US would have no face to present to kenyan's if they supported deferment. Atleast China has made it clear they are shagging us and paying through roads etc.

The US has been shagging us with no payments, just empty words and misomo about correctness, if they moved to the dark side, the kenyans would forever not take them seriously.
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newfarer
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:34:14 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
If any of the Ocampo 6 is jailed in foreign land, a seed of permanent hatred n open tribal intolerance will hav been sown. Lets face the truth, pple will never 4get their own son rotting in some foreign soil. RAO may NEVER be 4given by a large section of the Kenyan society. As evident in parliament, the ICC issue has taken a POLITICAL n in turn, a TRIBAL dimention. Let me emphasize, ICC saga cant, and WONT auger well 4 Kenya!


Fungua macho

ICC is the best thing to happen in Kenyan history.
At no time have we seen leaders running around like headless chicken.

It will sort out impunity .
It will mean that even if RAO or Martha Karua of Kalonzo Musyoka is defeated in 2012 , no one will finance hungry youth to torch houses whether steadman or synovate had shown him/her as the leading candidate in the opinion polls .

ICC itakuwa funzo kwa wengine wenye nia kama ya 2007


punda amecheka
2 Miles
#19 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:37:06 PM
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"Lets face the truth, pple will never 4get their own son rotting in some foreign soil"

How do you make such a comment??? Funny
simonkabz
#20 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:45:11 PM
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@miles, pana chesa na binadamu bwana. Watu wa machinani arent too forgetful, politicians wont shut up either. If u dnt see my point now, im certain u wil get it post-ocampo. TIME.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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