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30yr bond at 12%. Any takers?
Wa_ithaka
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:28:00 AM
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CBK has launched its longest bond yet for 30yrs. I think its a good idea and is the sort of thing banks thinking of going into the mortgage market should be looking to do.

However, I think its the interest rate is on the low side.

Your views?
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Wendz
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:06:13 AM
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I saw this on news. What is the lock-in period? That will determine how attractive it is. Many investors do not want their money locked in without any chance of exercising their right to exit should a better opportunity come calling.
kizee1
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:57:07 AM
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wendz...the lock in period is 30 years lol...tho u cud sell it on the secondary market
maka
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:22:48 AM
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This bond will mostly be taken up by fund managers and the NSSF I dont think there is any bank that will dare touch this as it will be almost impossible to trade it on the secondary market just look at the 25 year bond those still holding are stuck with the paper
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bwenyenye
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:35:21 AM
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Guys,

I think the return is not as bad at it seems. Look at it this way, what other options do you have that you can invest and be quiet while earning for 30 years. The main option is real estate as in rental property. You get land, put up a building and rent it out. Now a quarter an acre will cost you about 5M bob in a good location.( Ruaka, Jamhuri etc)Then, put up about 25M to put up a buiding that will bring you about 350K pm in rent. i.e Kshs4.2M p.a assuming 100% occupancy and pay rate.i.e is a 14% return on investment.

Now, other than the capital gains on the property, why would I go into all the hullabaloo of sourcing land, getting approvals, building etc for and extra 2% returns?

My three pence...
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kizee1
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:41:53 AM
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too low a return for 30 years...does anyone beleive kes interest rates can fall any lower? if the market turns as it most likely will u face a major revaluation loss
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:58:09 AM
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Maybe all these insurance cum investment companies can put investors money there and start giving better returns than the insulting 8%pa.

I think it's a very wise investment if you have kids in school. Imagine if you invest 2m, you'll be set for school fees for 2 kids in a good private primary school.

BBI will solve it
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kizee1
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:06:36 AM
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it is not a wise investment! cbk are trying to lock in funds for 30years at a time when inflation and rates are surging...surely people...anyway its ur money guys
amolo
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:10:44 AM
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Does anybody know the current life expectancy in Kenya, it was 45 yrs a while ago. Whatever it is, subtract 30 and get the age of the guys (individuals)who should be investing in that bond!
Just wish I had put more money in the Kengen Bond!
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:29:00 AM
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@amolo; Life expectancy of a fetus/foetus is not same as for a baby, neither is it same as for a 45yr old. Or is it 0 for 45 yr old? So it varies with your age.
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