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Njore
#11 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 1:28:47 PM
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Good people. You need to appreciate the fact that the government is working extremely hard to achieve the goal of Education for All (EFA). Today we have 26,666 primary and 6,566 secondary schools. This is no mean achievement compared to five years ago when we had about 4,000 secondary schools. The principle of access and equity is critical. Let us acknowledge the fact that the government is doing a commendable job to address perennial gaps in our education sector. Left unchecked, a child from a poor family will continue to get sidelined and disadvantaged for life. The fact that the government cannot solely afford to provide education opportunities to its citizenry does not warrant private provider to dictate terms. The only fair logic is to apply a formula (using ratios & proportions) to accommodate all our children. When we start comparing our education system with those in Japan and South Korea, we miss the point. These are two different worlds that are totally incompatible.
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MaichBlack
#12 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 1:59:07 PM
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Njore wrote:
When we start comparing our education system with those in Japan and South Korea, we miss the point. These are two different worlds that are totally incompatible.

What if we compare it with the Malaysian one? Kenya's economy was ahead of that of Malaysia in the 60s and 70s - Remember?

There is something you are not understanding. The question is how did Japan and South Korea get where they are? Is there anything we can learn from them? And of course one of the things that have put them where they are is Education. Competitive education! China has learnt that very first and they are investing heavily in Education and also partnering with the industry - A company sponsors a university or department - equipment, buildings and personnel - and in return they get tax breaks. And guess what, the education system is competitive as hell. You continue rewarding mediocrity and see how far you will go. This is the real world my brother. Everything you do - new business, product etc. - you had better be better than everyone else if you are to survive! The sooner your kid knows that, the better!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Njore
#13 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 3:22:19 PM
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MaichB, just to correct you, I did not imply that we should not borrow ideas from other educational systems. My point was, we should not be always quick to compare ourselves with others. Our national objectives and priorities are different from those of other nations. You and I know very well how much productive time our country lost during the Nyayo-era (quarter of a century - 24 years). We will take a while to make up. When I look at the knowledge and skills that are needed in the modern world, they were neither taught in schools nor colleges. Therefore if we are to make a serious leap in our education sector, there is a serious need to totally overhaul our curriculum. Be that as it may, I am satisfied with the steps the MOE is taking to make education accessible to a majority of the populace. If you get time, grab a copy of the Sessional Paper No. 5 of January 2005 to understand the plans our government has for our education.
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QD
#14 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 4:14:53 PM
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Just a question this kids from the public schools will they be able to cope with the load they"ll find in the national schools????.

Yes we are trying to solve a problem, seem to me btw haves and have not but there may just be more dropouts than we anticipated due to culture shock.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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simonkabz
#15 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 9:59:49 PM
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QD are u serious? R u telling us National schøøls hav been the preserve of rich kids fm private schs? U cant b more wrong....Infact I take that as a thinly veiled insult to the poor kids. Its such comments that make Ongeri seem so right!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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bkismat
#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:47:53 AM
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QD wrote:
Just a question this kids from the public schools will they be able to cope with the load they"ll find in the national schools????.

Yes we are trying to solve a problem, seem to me btw haves and have not but there may just be more dropouts than we anticipated due to culture shock.

Easily the most stupid statement I have ever seen on wazua.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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QD
#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:33:23 AM
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Easy guys i deed not want to offend anybody thats why i stated Just a question.

SORRY if i offended any of the wazuan tribe. my apologies.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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Jus Blazin
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:45:30 AM
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@QD, apology accepted. Maybe you can always rephrase your question. Like @simonkabz has pointed out, national schools are not the preserve of students from private schools. Because if students from public schools cannot cope with the load in national schools, how then do they cope with the load in universities and high end colleges? Again, we know there are kids who have been from private schools to national schools and then to private universities because they did not qualify to join public universities...
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Jus Blazin
#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:47:56 AM
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Njore wrote:
MaichB, just to correct you, I did not imply that we should not borrow ideas from other educational systems. My point was, we should not be always quick to compare ourselves with others. Our national objectives and priorities are different from those of other nations. You and I know very well how much productive time our country lost during the Nyayo-era (quarter of a century - 24 years). We will take a while to make up. When I look at the knowledge and skills that are needed in the modern world, they were neither taught in schools nor colleges. Therefore if we are to make a serious leap in our education sector, there is a serious need to totally overhaul our curriculum. Be that as it may, I am satisfied with the steps the MOE is taking to make education accessible to a majority of the populace. If you get time, grab a copy of the Sessional Paper No. 5 of January 2005 to understand the plans our government has for our education.

I agree with you.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Karema Hiti
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:59:34 PM
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Njore, this is a good piece. The need to identify our needs and our priorities is critical. I also fully concur with you on the importance of giving credit where it's due -- It is true, the MOE has made a major impact on our education since 2003. I'm meant to understand that GoK finances over 94% of our education with a paltry 6% coming from developing partners wrapped with conditionalities & Wikileaks!
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